Re: given WOLips is being discussed...
Re: given WOLips is being discussed...
- Subject: Re: given WOLips is being discussed...
- From: Aaron Rosenzweig via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2020 11:46:12 -0400
Thanks OC for sharing your experience and your code for the EOModeler on OSX.
(I realize that is jvanek’s link; however, it was you who cobbled together the
first version).
Eclipse does two things well:
1) Refactoring
2) Cross platform (Macs, PCs, Linux - mixed environment)
I use Eclipse today mainly because my team-mates chose it… and it’s ok, it has
issues, but it’s alright for me. If we were honest, IntelliJ does those two
things better than Eclipse but it doesn’t have the WOLips plugin. That plug-in
is good but it is a never-ending struggle where Eclipse keeps breaking it in
strange ways and nobody enjoys figuring out that useful friend in a foreign
land. We’ve never fit in with the Eclipse community.
It was nice in the days when you could double-click install WebObjects with
tooling on a Mac. I enjoyed ProjectBuilder, WOBuilder, EOModeler, it all worked
very nice for the most part. It had some issues too… there are always issues,
but that was the heyday and when I enjoyed working with WO the most. If it were
up to me I’d run MacOS Tiger in a VM with all that tooling when doing WO. But
to be the lone wolf when others prefer getting rid of the .wod file and not
using the same IDE setup it’s more like fighting than being productive.
There was something guttural, tangible, enjoyable, with dragging member
variables into component bindings. I enjoyed WOBuilder immensely and even
created my member variables there. Whatever I do today I do in a trance where I
imagine I was doing things that way. It’s like channelling an ancient codex to
do my bidding in the modern age.
I’m fortunate that much of what I loved I do today in Ares / Enyo but it too is
dead. Why is it that the flame that burns Twice as bright burns half as long?
AARON ROSENZWEIG / Chat 'n Bike <http://www.chatnbike.com/>
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> On Jul 3, 2020, at 3:29 PM, OCsite via Webobjects-dev
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> ... well, myself, I have found Eclipse next-to-unuseable (WOLips itself
> looked good, but it's, alas, Eclipse-based). In case there's more people
> similarly Eclipse-incompatible, let me just remind that the good ole XCode
> (with a couple of build scripts added) is considerably more convenient than
> Eclipse, and the only thing it can't do reasonably is EOmodelling.
>
> Which is why there's a stand-alone EOModeller application, freely available
> at https://github.com/jvanek/EOModeler-OSX
>
> (There's no graph view: for graph view you can use OmniGraffle, which still
> supports EOModels very nicely.)
>
> All the best,
> OC
>
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