Re: Simplifying Wonder
Re: Simplifying Wonder
- Subject: Re: Simplifying Wonder
- From: Jesse Tayler via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 11:48:51 -0400
Are we talking bifurcation of the root here?
I mean, as long as we’ve lic. code such that it allows us all to freely
contribute, clearly open-source- we can work things out, but could this not
make things more complicated for the community?
Also, what are you targeting? I have my own list of grievances but have a
limited ability to address them because they are DEEEEEEP — So, I have a
framework that my apps are based on to try to modernize and organize and it is
effectively a ‘patch’ system to try and work around the problem I have and get
me to a modern interface I can rely on.
Here’s my ‘modern’ look framework
https://github.com/jtayler/BootstrapModernLook
This approach patches on top what you suggest is of course a preferable
solution, but one that I could not afford the resources to do.
Actually the Ajax.framework is totally cool but built on prototype and the
internals are just so funky that I was unable to move to modern stuff and
there’s actually a pinch of javascript in bootstrap modern that allows me to
trigger menu actions and other things that generally don’t work on Wonder when
you want to use jQuery based interfaces.
Your solutions may vary!
I’d love to get us all closer together on these central issues like updating
the Ajax frameworks or WOLips progress because they benefit us all
> On Oct 14, 2020, at 6:11 AM, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> for the past couple of days I've been doing some simplification of Project
> Wonder with the help of Paul (Hoadley). The goal is to shed some of the
> weight that Wonder carries and make it easier to develop and make it easier
> to use it as a tool to carry WO forward.
>
> What we've got so far is a GitHub community with three repos.
>
> https://github.com/undur
>
> - wo-deployment
> -- JavaMonitor
> -- wotaskd
> -- JavaMonitorFramework
>
> - wonder-slim
> -- ERExtensions
> -- JavaWOExtensions
> -- WOOgnl
>
> - ajax
> - Well… Ajax
>
> Although split up, the projects are still basically the same projects as
> exist within Wonder—although moved to a maven project structure. There's
> still a lot of cleanup to do, as in, "we're going to have to let
> 'ERXEuropeanUnionsEnums' go" (sorry about that). But it's a first step.
>
> It's very much a work in progress but I'm interested in hearing your
> opinions, what you think about this and where you'd like to see it going, if
> anywhere. As for myself, splitting up the monolith of Wonder and making it
> easier to improve and work on feels pretty awesome. Not to mention the hugely
> reduced depency graph this results in.
> I'm already using the new projects in production and everything seems to work
> well.
>
> There are active discussions going on in the WOCommunity Slack channel, so if
> you're not there but would like to add your voice to the conversion, it would
> be lovely to see you there. Or just discuss here if you prefer.
>
> - hugi
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