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Re: WOLips development


  • Subject: Re: WOLips development
  • From: Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2024 11:43:23 +0000

Samuel, thanks _a lot_ for the hotswap-agent's WO plugin. It's saved me a huge
amount of time over the years — and probably money, since I guess I'd still be
using JRebel if DCEVM wasn't an option. Can't live without enhanced class
redefinition!

Cheers,
- hugi


> On 9 Nov 2024, at 14:32, Samuel Pelletier via Webobjects-dev
> <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As written by Hugi, rebel can be replaced with a DCEVM jvm using the hot swap
> plugin. This plugin do the same things for DCEVM as the jRebel plugin for
> rebel : clear KeyValueCoding, WOComponent and NSValidation caches on class
> reload.
>
> With this setup, you usually only need to restart an app when changing the
> base class of a class or a static member initializer.
>
> I wrote the plugin, il you have question or feature requests, feel free to
> ask.
>
>
>
>> Le 7 nov. 2024 à 03:44, Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev
>> <email@hidden> a écrit :
>>
>> Ramsay, it's awesome you're taking a look at WOLips, thanks for that! And
>> curiosity is eating me alive; looking at anything in particular?
>>
>> Not using either of the plugins you mentioned. But using the opportunity for
>> some evangelism; replaced JRebel with DCEVM and hotswap-agent a few years
>> back. Works like a charm and the wiki has a nice page showing how to set it
>> up (the JDK 17 instructions work fine for JDK 21, you'll just have to go to
>> the release pages of the JDK/hotswap-agent and download current versions
>> instead of curl-ing the packages from the instructions):
>>
>> https://flagged.apple.com:443/proxy?t2=Dn4e4D9Gv0&o=aHR0cHM6Ly93aWtpLndvY29tbXVuaXR5Lm9yZy94d2lraS9iaW4vdmlldy9XT0wvSG9tZS9XT0xpcHMvVXNpbmclMjBEQ0VWTSUyMGFuZCUyMEhvdHN3YXAlMjBmb3IlMjByYXBpZCUyMHR1cm5hcm91bmQ=&emid=c9d75702-e4d1-42d5-bf1f-167cd4124ce5&c=11/
>>
>> On another more distantly related note (since launch arguments were
>> mentioned) I stopped using WOLips WO launch configurations a couple of years
>> back, preferring to
>> launch WO apps as regular java apps with a couple of added arguments. WOLips
>> launch configurations generate a borked classpath when launching maven
>> projects, making them somewhat troublesome if your dependencies are
>> beyond the simplest case (while java launch configurations will generate a
>> correct classpath, i.e. reflecting what ends up in the build).
>>
>> https://github.com/wocommunity/wolips/issues/153
>>
>> Cheers,
>> - hugi
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 7 Nov 2024, at 08:11, Martino Limido via Webobjects-dev
>>> <email@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Ramsey,
>>>
>>> I believe you’re correct—the plugin itself doesn’t actually exist. When
>>> checking the file at site.xml, it lists
>>> features/org.objectstyle.wolips.jrebel.feature_4.18.20240430.22.jar, but
>>> this jar doesn’t appear to be installed. I think the “magic” here is simply
>>> setting the ${jrebel_args} variable manually in each Run Configuration; no
>>> additional support on the WOLips side seems necessary to make JRebel work
>>> for us.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, removing these
>> references from the WOLips installation would be fine, as they don’t appear
>> to impact JRebel’s functionality in any way.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking into it!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Martino
>>>
>>>> Il giorno 7 nov 2024, alle ore
>> 02:18, Ramsey Gurley <email@hidden> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> I assumed they were dead because when I look in the site.xml, they are
>>>> listed, but when I look in /features/ they don't exist. I'm not sure what
>>>> magic is allowing you to install them but I will try to maintain both of
>>>> these since they apparently still work :)
>>>>
>>>> https://flagged.apple.com:443/proxy?t2=DZ8B9s3CD5&o=aHR0cHM6Ly9qZW5raW5zLndvY29tbXVuaXR5Lm9yZy9qb2IvV09MaXBzX21hc3Rlci9sYXN0U3VjY2Vzc2Z1bEJ1aWxkL2FydGlmYWN0L3RlbXAvZGlzdA==&emid=c9d75702-e4d1-42d5-bf1f-167cd4124ce5&c=11/
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References: 
 >Re: WOLips development (From: Martino Limido via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOLips development (From: Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOLips development (From: Martino Limido via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOLips development (From: Ramsey Gurley via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOLips development (From: Martino Limido via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOLips development (From: Hugi Thordarson via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)
 >Re: WOLips development (From: Samuel Pelletier via Webobjects-dev <email@hidden>)

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