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Re: Raise-on-Focus
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Re: Raise-on-Focus


  • Subject: Re: Raise-on-Focus
  • From: Don MacQueen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:36:39 -0800

And my own 2 cents...

At 8:27 PM +0000 2/2/03, email@hidden wrote:
> If Apple does make X11 an integral part of OS X, then their window
manager will have to provide OS X-like mappings, not the ones that I'm
used to. The target for that will be the common non-Unix-geeks. A
"normal" user should be able to use X11 apps on the MacOS desktop
without even recognizing that they are different from other OS X apps.

I must say that I don't agree that a consistent environment is only important for "normal" users. I've been using other Unix systems and X11 for a long time before I came to this platform (and I still do), but I really can't understand why anyone would want to run X11 in rootless mode on Mac OS X with any other window manager other than quartz-wm or OroborOSX.

Very simple. In one window I'm typing commands that create graphics. The graphics are displaying in another window. I don't need to see the entire command window, but I do need to see the entire graphics window. I can make the graphics window a lot larger if I can partially cover the command window, yet still type in the command window.


I think that X11 windows in
the Aqua environment should behave like any other window as much as is possible.
Consistency is much more important to me than any personal preference I might have.

If users have the choice, then they can choose consistency or not. Whichever they prefer. With quartz-wm, there is no choice.


It's not surprising that Apple would make quartz-wm follow the same focus rules as Aqua. But for those of us who want something that many X11 window managers permit, it's unfortunate. And for me it's a make or break issue. I simply won't use an X11 window manager that doesn't allow keyboard input on windows that aren't on top.

-Don


Just my 2 cents.

J. Mckeown.
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