Re: Raise-on-Focus
Re: Raise-on-Focus
- Subject: Re: Raise-on-Focus
- From: Don MacQueen <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2003 11:36:39 -0800
And my own 2 cents...
At 8:27 PM +0000 2/2/03, email@hidden wrote:
> If Apple does make X11 an integral part of OS X, then their window
manager will have to provide OS X-like mappings, not the ones that I'm
used to. The target for that will be the common non-Unix-geeks. A
"normal" user should be able to use X11 apps on the MacOS desktop
without even recognizing that they are different from other OS X apps.
I must say that I don't agree that a consistent environment is only important
for "normal" users. I've been using other Unix systems and X11 for a long time
before I came to this platform (and I still do), but I really can't understand
why anyone would want to run X11 in rootless mode on Mac OS X with any other
window manager other than quartz-wm or OroborOSX.
Very simple. In one window I'm typing commands that create graphics.
The graphics are displaying in another window. I don't need to see
the entire command window, but I do need to see the entire graphics
window. I can make the graphics window a lot larger if I can
partially cover the command window, yet still type in the command
window.
I think that X11 windows in
the Aqua environment should behave like any other window as much as
is possible.
Consistency is much more important to me than any personal
preference I might have.
If users have the choice, then they can choose consistency or not.
Whichever they prefer. With quartz-wm, there is no choice.
It's not surprising that Apple would make quartz-wm follow the same
focus rules as Aqua. But for those of us who want something that many
X11 window managers permit, it's unfortunate. And for me it's a make
or break issue. I simply won't use an X11 window manager that doesn't
allow keyboard input on windows that aren't on top.
-Don
Just my 2 cents.
J. Mckeown.
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Don MacQueen
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