Re: Raise-on-Focus
Re: Raise-on-Focus
- Subject: Re: Raise-on-Focus
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 20:57:41 GMT
>>I must say that I don't agree that a consistent environment is only important
>>for "normal" users. I've been using other Unix systems and X11 for a long time
>>before I came to this platform (and I still do), but I really can't understand
>>why anyone would want to run X11 in rootless mode on Mac OS X with any other
>>window manager other than quartz-wm or OroborOSX.
>
> Very simple. In one window I'm typing commands that create graphics.
> The graphics are displaying in another window. I don't need to see
> the entire command window, but I do need to see the entire graphics
> window. I can make the graphics window a lot larger if I can
> partially cover the command window, yet still type in the command
> window.
>
> If users have the choice, then they can choose consistency or not.
> Whichever they prefer. With quartz-wm, there is no choice.
Oh I agree that users should have the choice, the more choices the better,
always. I just think that options such as focus-follows-mouse and
don't-raise-on-focus should be available for us in quartz-wm. To me, things like
interleaving X11 windows with Mac OS X windows and minimizing X11 windows to the
dock are vital for using X11 in the aqua environment.
> It's not surprising that Apple would make quartz-wm follow the same
> focus rules as Aqua. But for those of us who want something that many
> X11 window managers permit, it's unfortunate. And for me it's a make
> or break issue. I simply won't use an X11 window manager that doesn't
> allow keyboard input on windows that aren't on top.
The thing is, while you can use an X11 window manager that allows this for X11
windows, you can't specify this behaviour for your Mac OS X windows. To me this
seems to make it almost pointless, it's like using an X11 window manager that
gives you virtual desktops, your Mac OS X windows can't make use of the virtual
desktops, so what's the point?
Actually that's another make or break issue for me, I'll never use an X11 window
manager that doesn't work with Codetek Virtual Desktop (unless they fix this in
quartz-wm I'm just going to keep on using OroborOSX and XDarwin). I don't
understand how anyone can get by without virtual desktops.
J. Mckeown.
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