Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
- Subject: Re: copy and paste between Aqua and X11 applications?
- From: Rich Cook <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:48:44 -0700
Interesting. You have said that, my apologies. So you are saying
there are times when you select something in an X-term, hit command-
C, then go to another app and hit command-V and it does not work?
Amazing. I work with literally dozens of xterms at a time in
multiple virtual desktops and copy and paste all day long and never
have a problem. Lucky me, eh?
I used to have a problem, but once I closely watched what I was doing
it became apparent to me I wasn't quite following the obvious select,
copy, paste sequence. Next time it happens, maybe look to see if
your selection in xterm is still active when it fails. I'll be it is
not. The thing that causes the selection to become inactive is the
real problem.
For example, select some text in xterm. Now hit command-C. Now
click elsewhere in the xterm window to deselect the original text.
Now try to paste into somewhere. It won't work. The text has to
remain selected. Is that the problem?
On Jul 18, 2007, at 11:41 AM, Adam D. I. Kramer wrote:
Sorry to be repetitive, but since the beginning of the thread I've
been
saying that this problem is inconsistent and I cannot specify when
it does
and doesn't happen. :) See the last paragraph in the message you
quoted.
It's frustrating to me as well, and I'd probably make a lot more
progress
towards solving it if I could.
What I do know, though, is that the problem occurs when xterm is
the only
X app running, and I don't believe xterm steals selections. Also,
pasting
between xterms (using the X-only clipboard and middle-click) works
flawlessly...so it's unlikely similar to your bug.
--Adam
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Rich Cook wrote:
Sorry to be repetitive, but can you describe an exact sequence of
actions
so that I can reproduce it here? When I select something in X11, hit
command-C, then go to an Aqua app and hit command-V, it works
fine. Every
time. Unless my mouse passes over totalview as I mentioned, which
seems
to steal the selection (and which affects X11 as well as a
consequence,
not just the Mac clipboard, so it's an X11 problem, not an Apple bug
aFAICT). :-)
On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Adam D. I. Kramer wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Rich Cook wrote:
There has to be a reason it works for me without fail and for
you only occasionally.
Agreed. I'm glad not everyone has the problem for exactly that
reason.
There's hope!
One sneaky thing I've seen with X11 is that sometimes there is an
application that "steals" the clipboard as you pass your mouse
over it. It can then paste emptiness into it. I forget what the
application was
that was doing this. Might have been the Totalview debugger, in
fact I'm
pretty sure it was.
Well, I'm usually just running 3 or 4 xterms. Usually, the
program running
is ssh into another box, in which screen -x is called; inside the
screen, I
mostly run things like pine and naim.
Open only an xterm, nothing else. Try copying text in it, then hit
command-C then paste into like Mail.app or whatever. If that
doesn't
work, you've found yourself a serious bug that you should report to
https://bugreport.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/RadarWeb.woa. If
it does
work, then try launching your usual environment in X11, with all
windows
showing. If that breaks it, you have a clue.
My usual environment is 4 xterms. Teh problem is that successful
copying is
NOT an indication that "things work," because I can occasionally
successfully copy--I just can't explain or discern why I can't
when I am
unable to. Indeed, if I go back into the x11 window and try
again, sometimes
it works...
--Adam
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Richard Cook
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