Re: An icon for each app, was Re: Where art thou, xinit?
Re: An icon for each app, was Re: Where art thou, xinit?
- Subject: Re: An icon for each app, was Re: Where art thou, xinit?
- From: "Nathaniel Gray" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:29:15 -0800
> On Nov 16, 2007, at 7:25 PM, Ben Byer wrote:
> Oh, I swear, there are 5 unique conversations about X11 on the Mac that happen, total, and this is one of them - but at least now we can have it publicly and recorded for posterity :)
Yes. That's a very valuable thing, actually.
> I love the -- hypothetical -- idea of having each X11 application having its own icon. Putting aside the technical issues of getting the Dock to do that, there's the above-mentioned problem -- 20 xterms should not each get their own icon. It'd be great to have them all under one icon. Well, X11 already does that, but they're all in the same X11 icon. So maybe each individually named app (xterm vs gimp, etc) is coalesced into on icon (or even a Stack, but implementing that is even *more* far-fetched!).
So, maybe instead we just make it easier to make droplets.
For sure. I don't need an icon for xev and an icon for xclipboard and
so on. I just want a way to make Gimp, Inkscape, NEdit, and other
"real" apps integrate better. It makes sense that this would be an
opt-in thing, not a magical X server thing.
> Too bad we broke all of the existing droplets with this launchd nonsense for Leopard. :/
Well, only the hack jobs that assumed the user would never set DISPLAY
herself. I'm happy to say that NEdit Droplet didn't need any changes.
:-)
> And I don't actually know how droplets work -- I assume they bring your app (say, Gimp) to the foreground when you click on them? As if we didn't have enough trouble doing that in X11?
It depends. Most are pretty basic, and I don't think they do anything
but focus X11 when you click on them (after the app is launched, that
is). There may be some more full-featured ones out there I suppose.
> It's enough to get completely overwhelmed, I tell you. :) I'd still love to see this all happen and done right, but we have to start somewhere. The launchd support for X11 in Leopard was where we chose to start.
Definitely a step in the right direction IMHO. The xinitrc problem
still vexes me though.
Cheers,
-n8
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