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Re: Constructive conversations, was Re: AW: SV: focus failure with x11 and Mac OS X 10.5
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Re: Constructive conversations, was Re: AW: SV: focus failure with x11 and Mac OS X 10.5


  • Subject: Re: Constructive conversations, was Re: AW: SV: focus failure with x11 and Mac OS X 10.5
  • From: "Nathaniel Gray" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:55:04 -0800

On Nov 30, 2007 10:01 AM, Peter O'Gorman <email@hidden> wrote:
> It would never have been ready if it was not released though. Ben would
> be fixing bugs in the older X11, and working on the other portions of
> his job. Jeremey, Nathan, Nathaniel and others would not be putting in
> so much effort into fixing the problems. We'd be stuck with the tiger
> X11 forever.

I've tried to avoid second-guessing and lingering on the past, but
I'll just say that if Leopard had shipped with Tiger's X11 and a
dialog popped up on first launch saying "we're switching to X.org --
come help us!" I would have jumped at the chance.  But as they say,
hindsight is 20/20.  I'm quite happy with the job Ben has done of
resolving the worst of the problems and making timely releases.  It's
not 100% solid yet, but it's getting better all the time.

As for the reason for X11 on OS X, it's true that it's a compatibility
environment, but X is not as static as it once was.  X.org is the
future of X, and it would be foolish not to make that transition.

Cheers,
-n8

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 >Constructive conversations, was Re: AW: SV: focus failure with x11 and Mac OS X 10.5 (From: Ben Byer <email@hidden>)
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