Re: Reverting to Tiger X11 and other issues
Re: Reverting to Tiger X11 and other issues
- Subject: Re: Reverting to Tiger X11 and other issues
- From: Michael Summers <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:30:35 -0400
Problem #3 is the biggest issue that will our laboratory from
upgrading. Nearly all our
scientific applications are X-based, and we currently use a 3rd party
program
for multiple desktops. They need to be compatible!
Mike
On Oct 29, 2007, at 8:18 AM, Mark J. Reed wrote:
On 10/29/07, Brad Crittenden <email@hidden> wrote:
I am dismayed that Apple has released such a flawed version of X with
Leopard.
I share your disappointment that some things are broken, but I think
you're overstating the problem. The major issues identified so far:
1) No way to emulate middle-button clicks (at least on MacBook Pros,
possibly other single-pointer-button environments)
2) Yellow cursor on Intel xterms
3) X doesn't work with Spaces
4) The Applications menu in X11.app doesn't allow arguments
5) No UTF-8/locale support in xterm, and no uxterm supplied.
Of these, I think the odd numbers are the biggest problems. (4) has
an easy workaround (use shell scripts for the menu items), but (1)
doesn't - unless you're willing to carry an external mouse around with
you everywhere you take your MacBook - and neither does (3).
As you noted, (2) is not a new bug; it's also present in X11 on
Tiger, unless you applied an unsupported third-party patch. But when
you say this:
That said, I am shocked that they released yet another version of X
with the dread Yellow Cursor, which has been a known issue with a
community-provided solution since February 2006.
I begin to wonder if you read the messages on this list rather than
treating it as write-only. We have confirmation from the responsible
developer at Apple that the yellow cursor bug had been fixed
internally in the X11R6 codebase, so it's not like they're disavowing
it. They had a regression when they switched to R7, which is
unfortunate, but I don't think it ranks as "shocking".
Another issue with the Leopard version of X11.app that I have not
seen
mentioned is the reduced functionality of the customizable
"Applications" menu.
Odd, because it's been mentioned multiple times, and we even got
confirmation from that same developer I mentioned that it's a bug, not
an intended functionality change. And as I said above, it's easily
worked around - although the lack of uxterm makes your particular
example problematic.
--
Mark J. Reed <email@hidden>
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