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Re: Bringing All Windows to Front
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Re: Bringing All Windows to Front


  • Subject: Re: Bringing All Windows to Front
  • From: William Mortensen <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:39:52 -0700

(I wasn't actually a subscriber to this list until just now, so this is not truly a reply. Sorry about that.)

On Oct 30, 2007, at 7:02 PM, Ben Byer wrote:
On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote:
On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Jamie Kennea wrote:

On Oct 28, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Aaron Bannert wrote:

I haven't seen this issue discussed yet on this list, though I've seen reports of it elsewhere. The new Leopard X11 doesn't bring all the X windows to the front when switching to the X11 application, either by clicking on the icon on the Dock or by command-tab switching. Is anyone else here seeing this? Is there a workaround or a fix?
Try clicking on the X11 icon twice.
Thanks, but I'm looking for an automatic solution, and I'd be glad to try to solve this myself if someone could point me to the source. This same bug happened when Tiger first came out and it was just as much a show-stopper for me back then as it is now.

Yes, this is an annoying problem, and yes, it's been around forever -- and I haven't been able to find the cause. Patches, as always, are greatly appreciated. :)

Well, it hasn't really been around forever from us users' perspective, since it was introduced in 10.4.0 and then fixed in 10.4.3, and only now re-introduced in 10.5.0. :-)


Is it possible that 10.4.3's patch was lost in the move to the new codebase, the same way that you said another patch was?

I have to say that I'm disappointed with the state of X11 in Leopard-- for my purposes it's a regression from Tiger post-10.4.3--but I fully appreciate that you are doing the best you can with (extremely?) limited resources. Though I don't know much about the internals of X11 on OS X or in general, I would attribute most of the issues I see to quartz-wm and its integration with the native windowing system, and I wonder if the BSD team is not the best part of the company to be dealing with those particular problems (as opposed to ones with the X server itself).

I really hope you can get the source of quartz-wm opened, since I believe that then everything Apple calls "X11" would be available for the community to improve. Maybe it wouldn't quite be WebKit, but we can dream....

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