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Today's Topics:
1. Odd new issue with 2.4.0... (Robert A. Weller)
2. command history with Tiger X11 (Philip Dennison)
3. Re: command history with Tiger X11 (Bill Campbell)
4. Re: command history with Tiger X11 (Mark J. Reed)
5. Re: command history with Tiger X11 (Philip Dennison)
6. Re: Odd new issue with 2.4.0... (Jeremy Huddleston)
7. Re: command history with Tiger X11 (Jeremy Huddleston)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:56:49 -0500
From: "Robert A. Weller" <email@hidden>
Subject: Odd new issue with 2.4.0...
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I have found the last few releases to be extremely stable, but 2.4.0
has introduced an annoying issue with the programs that I use.
These are custom code for radiation transport based on Geant4.
Previously, I could start and stop the transport programs, whether
running on my local Mac, or on a remote linux cluster, arbitrarily and
the program would connect with my local X11 regardless of whether or
not it was running with an icon in the dock. Now everything works fine
the first time I start the program either locally or remotely, but
subsequently it won't work if I have an X icon already in the dock. If
I quit X then everything is ok again. It is as if somehow the server
isn't being found if it's already running.
As I said, everything worked perfectly prior to 2.4.0. I'm running Mac
OS X 1.5.8 and the programs have not been recompiled since I installed
X11 2.4.0. What could be causing this? Could it be a regression in
2.4.0. I'm inclined to think not, since the list has been so quiet.
Surely, everyone would have seen this if it were a real issue with the
new x11.
Regards,
Bob Weller
Vanderbilt University
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:27:58 -0700
From: Philip Dennison <email@hidden>
Subject: command history with Tiger X11
To: X11 Mailing <email@hidden>
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Hi.
I have 6 Macs, of which one is running the latest version of Leopard
and
the rest are running 10.4.11 with all the latest updates.
On all but one system I can access the X11 command history with the up
and down arrow keys. I would love to get this working on the one
machine.
The problem computer is a 12 inch PowerBook G4. Command history
works in
Terminal, but not X11. But it wasn't working in Terminal either until
recently when I found some hints on the web, there wasn't even a
'.bash_history' file.
Any ideas on how I can make X11 do this? The computer is over six
years
old, but has had a couple of replacement hard drives so I cannot say
for
sure what software has been on it. It had 10.2 as new, and I probably
installed XDarwin as well as older X11s.
I have tried with an external keyboard, but that makes no difference.
Thanks,
Phil.
--
Dr Phil Dennison
NMR Facility Director (949)824-6010 (office)
Department of Chemistry (949)824-5649 (lab)
University of California (949)824-8571 (fax)
Irvine, CA 92697-2025 email@hidden
USA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:38:34 -0700
From: Bill Campbell <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: command history with Tiger X11
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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009, Philip Dennison wrote:
Hi.
I have 6 Macs, of which one is running the latest version of
Leopard and
the rest are running 10.4.11 with all the latest updates.
On all but one system I can access the X11 command history with the
up
and down arrow keys. I would love to get this working on the one
machine.
The problem computer is a 12 inch PowerBook G4. Command history
works in
Terminal, but not X11. But it wasn't working in Terminal either until
recently when I found some hints on the web, there wasn't even a
'.bash_history' file.
Any ideas on how I can make X11 do this? The computer is over six
years
old, but has had a couple of replacement hard drives so I cannot
say for
sure what software has been on it. It had 10.2 as new, and I probably
installed XDarwin as well as older X11s.
When you say X11, I presume you mean an xterm.
The history is a function of the shell, presumably /bin/bash, not
the xterm itself, so I would look at ~/.profile, ~/.bash_login,
and ~/.bashrc to see if there is something that is causing. In
bash, two environment variables may affect this, HISTSIZE and
HISTFILE.
Bill
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:57:38 -0400
From: "Mark J. Reed" <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: command history with Tiger X11
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The shell normally expects emacs commands (control-p for previous line
= up, control-n for next line = down). If those don't work,
something is seriously broken. If they work but the arrow keys don't,
I would suspect that $TERM is not set right or readline is
misconfigured...
On 8/18/09, Bill Campbell <email@hidden> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009, Philip Dennison wrote:
Hi.
I have 6 Macs, of which one is running the latest version of
Leopard and
the rest are running 10.4.11 with all the latest updates.
On all but one system I can access the X11 command history with
the up
and down arrow keys. I would love to get this working on the one
machine.
The problem computer is a 12 inch PowerBook G4. Command history
works in
Terminal, but not X11. But it wasn't working in Terminal either
until
recently when I found some hints on the web, there wasn't even a
'.bash_history' file.
Any ideas on how I can make X11 do this? The computer is over six
years
old, but has had a couple of replacement hard drives so I cannot
say for
sure what software has been on it. It had 10.2 as new, and I
probably
installed XDarwin as well as older X11s.
When you say X11, I presume you mean an xterm.
The history is a function of the shell, presumably /bin/bash, not
the xterm itself, so I would look at ~/.profile, ~/.bash_login,
and ~/.bashrc to see if there is something that is causing. In
bash, two environment variables may affect this, HISTSIZE and
HISTFILE.
Bill
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INTERNET: email@hidden Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC
URL: http://www.celestial.com/ PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way
Voice: (206) 236-1676 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820
Fax: (206) 232-9186 Skype: jwccsllc (206) 855-5792
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(and
hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of
hobgoblins.
-- H.L. Mencken, 1923
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:40:10 -0700
From: Philip Dennison <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: command history with Tiger X11
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Philip Dennison wrote:
On all but one system I can access the X11 command history with the
up
and down arrow keys. I would love to get this working on the one
machine.
Thanks for the suggestions. I haven't found the answer yet, and don't
have ~/.profile or ~/.bash_login files.
But I have done what I should have tested before emailing - set up a
new
user account and test that. I have found that history works as
expected
using Terminal.app or an xterm.
So I just need to compare files between accounts.
Thanks,
Phil.
--
Dr Phil Dennison
NMR Facility Director (949)824-6010 (office)
Department of Chemistry (949)824-5649 (lab)
University of California (949)824-8571 (fax)
Irvine, CA 92697-2025 email@hidden
USA
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:50:07 -0700
From: Jeremy Huddleston <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: Odd new issue with 2.4.0...
To: Robert A.Weller <email@hidden>
Cc: X11 Mailing <email@hidden>
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Odd. My guess is that there is a $DISPLAY issue here.
If you connect to the remote computer from an xterm (as opposed to
Terminal.app), does it work?
Can you try running 'xdpyinfo' or 'xterm' while on the remote system
rather than your radiation transport application? That will atleast
eliminate your application from the list of possible culprits (I doubt
it is the problem, but it's good to pick reduced test cases).
--Jeremy
On Aug 18, 2009, at 14:56, Robert A. Weller wrote:
I have found the last few releases to be extremely stable, but 2.4.0
has introduced an annoying issue with the programs that I use.
These are custom code for radiation transport based on Geant4.
Previously, I could start and stop the transport programs, whether
running on my local Mac, or on a remote linux cluster, arbitrarily
and the program would connect with my local X11 regardless of
whether or not it was running with an icon in the dock. Now
everything works fine the first time I start the program either
locally or remotely, but subsequently it won't work if I have an X
icon already in the dock. If I quit X then everything is ok again.
It is as if somehow the server isn't being found if it's already
running.
As I said, everything worked perfectly prior to 2.4.0. I'm running
Mac OS X 1.5.8 and the programs have not been recompiled since I
installed X11 2.4.0. What could be causing this? Could it be a
regression in 2.4.0. I'm inclined to think not, since the list has
been so quiet. Surely, everyone would have seen this if it were a
real issue with the new x11.
Regards,
Bob Weller
Vanderbilt University
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:52:07 -0700
From: Jeremy Huddleston <email@hidden>
Subject: Re: command history with Tiger X11
To: Philip Dennison <email@hidden>
Cc: X11 Mailing <email@hidden>
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Since your system is from the 10.2 days, I wonder if your user account
is still using tcsh. What happens when you run:
echo $SHELL
On Aug 18, 2009, at 16:40, Philip Dennison wrote:
Philip Dennison wrote:
On all but one system I can access the X11 command history with the
up and down arrow keys. I would love to get this working on the one
machine.
Thanks for the suggestions. I haven't found the answer yet, and
don't have ~/.profile or ~/.bash_login files.
But I have done what I should have tested before emailing - set up a
new user account and test that. I have found that history works as
expected using Terminal.app or an xterm.
So I just need to compare files between accounts.
Thanks,
Phil.
--
Dr Phil Dennison
NMR Facility Director (949)824-6010 (office)
Department of Chemistry (949)824-5649 (lab)
University of California (949)824-8571 (fax)
Irvine, CA 92697-2025 email@hidden
USA
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