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Re: X11 window appearance
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Re: X11 window appearance


  • Subject: Re: X11 window appearance
  • From: Eeri Kask <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:03:31 +0200

Am 09/12/2009 07:09 PM, Jeremy Huddleston schrieb:
>> (1) What are these inner_x, inner_y, inner_w, inner_h parameters in
>> particular?
>
> Those are the parameters of the "inner" window.  That is, the contents.
> The "outer" window is what contains the inner window as well as all the
> decoration.


Unfortunately I still don't grasp the idea...  :-)  I was in opinion
these inner_? (and outer-?) parameters denote some rectangular area,
with coordinates relative to the corresponding X11-window origin on
the screen; therefore an area sized (w+2b, h+2b) at offset (-b,-b)
exactly encloses the X11-window area including its border. But
apparently this opinion is wrong.



>> (2) Not knowing any better I chose 'AppleWMFrameClassBorderless' as
>> this seemed  most appropriate to denote the CoreGraphics not to put
>> any of the usual Aqua title-bars, drag-knobs, its own border, etc
>> around the final result.  In fact, what does this 'class' parameter
>> like 'AppleWMFrameClassDocument' denote, regarding the shadow
>> drawing, if it affects anything at all?
>
> I think it should have no shadow.  That's used for menus, tooltips,
> splash screens, etc.


The applewm.h file lists these frame classes:

    AppleWMFrameClassDocument
    AppleWMFrameClassDialog
    AppleWMFrameClassModalDialog
    AppleWMFrameClassSystemModalDialog
    AppleWMFrameClassUtility
    AppleWMFrameClassToolbar
    AppleWMFrameClassMenu
    AppleWMFrameClassSplash
    AppleWMFrameClassBorderless

and I originally took the last one.  It appears each and everyone of
these looks the same-shadowed after being rendered, I did try all of
them in PaintShadow() in the aforementioned program and I could not
notice any difference in the shadow-decorated window appearance.
(They all look the way I wished them to look like.)



>> (4) Most important unresolved issue is termination: how to withdraw
>> the shadows by means of Apple-WM extension?  In particular, if
>> quartz-wm is started manually, and terminated by Ctrl-C, then it
>> withdraws all shadows.  How does it do that?   :-)
>
> it unmaps the window and reparents it to the root window.


Yes now I understand.  The reparented window has an ID unknown to
the CoreGraphics and so it doesn't get any shadow while re-mapping.


> I didn't look at the code, but if you still need help, I'll be able to
> look at it on Monday.

Oh thanks for the offer... if you spot any bugs please let me know! :-)
(To be serious, I would be glad to exactly understand these inner_?
and outer_? parameters; as well as the AppleWMFrameClass??? intended
purpose, at least to confirm this parameter is irrelevant to that
small program.)

Thanks again,

    Eeri Kask


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