Re: X11 installation by Apple in 10.7 and later ?
Re: X11 installation by Apple in 10.7 and later ?
- Subject: Re: X11 installation by Apple in 10.7 and later ?
- From: Phil Race <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 21:19:14 -0700
Hi Jeremy,
On 11/1/11 7:14 PM, Jeremy Huddleston wrote:
On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:59 PM, Phil Race wrote:
I'm unable to find information I can rely upon regarding
X11 installation on OS X - in particular OS X 10.7/Lion.
I seem to have it, the [few] random people I've checked on seem to have it
on 10.6 and 10.7, but I don't know how they or I first got it.
You got it with your OS installation. It was optional and on by default in 10.6 and installed unconditionally in 10.7.
The point being jdk7 on OS X currently relies on freetype from /usr/X11R6
so I want to look at my options.
What? That's not good. What jdk7 are you talking about?
The only one there is ...
Would installing JDK 7 on 10.7 also require/trigger an install of X11R6
from the app store or where ever else ?
X11R6 is crazy old. You don't mean that.
Can you explain in what sense you mean its old ?
OR: is X11R6 part of the "base" OS X distribution, supported along with all the
rest of it and you always get it in the *initial* install on a new 10.7 computer or
from a 10.6 upgrade whether you want it or not ?
It is part of base, but the JDK should NOT be relying on it.
There's a nuance there I mustn't be getting. Do you mean that only X11
apps should be using
part of the X11 distribution ? Why is that so ? There are a few things
in the X11 distribution that
don't necessarily imply you are running X and freetype is maybe the most
notable one.
I'll go poke people about that. Can you tell me which JDK7 you are referring to? Are you referring to the binary packages from http://jdk7.java.net/macportpreview or some home baked version?
Yes, I'm referring to those JDK 7 builds on java.net. This is how
OpenJDK works. It uses freetype.
However on OS X it mostly uses the native Apple ATS APIs with freetype
filling in some holes
that can't fill. Finally I suppose I am people :-).
-phil.
Thanks,
Jeremy
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