Re: Xquartz (non-) usability. Drawing speed. Startup etc
Re: Xquartz (non-) usability. Drawing speed. Startup etc
- Subject: Re: Xquartz (non-) usability. Drawing speed. Startup etc
- From: Ken Preslan via X11-users <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 13:02:10 -0600
Yes, it's a version of X11 from x.org.
You install Macports then you do a "port install xorg-server". That puts
an X11.app into /Applications/MacPorts. You can double click it or drag
it to your dock and click it there. It's just like the one installed by
XQuartz.
You want to make sure /opt/local/bin and /opt/local/sbin are in your path,
as that's where the the X11 apps (xterm, xclock, etc) are stored.
On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 07:28:04PM +0100, Filhol Alain via X11-users wrote:
> When you speak of a MacPort version of X11, is it this one
> <https://www.x.org/wiki/ <https://www.x.org/wiki/>> ?
> I am new at MacPorts and I am not sure I understand how to use it.
> port info xorg-apps
> If I install this port, does it gives a X11.app similar to Quartz.app ? Shall
> I activate it through a Terminal command ?
> "Description: This package builds all of the x.org <http://x.org/> app
> packages.” but this does not say where they are installed and how to use them.
>
> I think that Apple should support XQuartz and developers should complain
> about it.
>
> Happy new year
> Alain
>
>
> > On 4 Jan 2020, at 10:21, Ken Preslan via X11-users
> > <email@hidden <mailto:email@hidden>> wrote:
> >
> > Try the xorg-server-1.18 MacPort instead of the default xorg-server port.
> > There was a speed regression from 1.18 to 1.20. It's still not nearly
> > as fast as XQuartz was before Yosemite, though.
> >
> > At times, I wonder how hard it would be to change MacPorts' "vnc" port to
> > start compiling the VNC/X11 server. (Right now it only compiles the
> > client.) If that could be made to work, you could use a native MacOS
> > VNC client to connect to it. You'd have something that would run X11
> > apps on the Mac which would be lighter weight than a VM and much faster
> > than XQuartz. You'd think that the work involved would be much smaller
> > than the "XtoQ in libxcwm" fix to XQuartz.
> >
> > I've never gotten around to trying it though.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 08:34:32AM +0000, Gunning, James (Energy, Clayton
> > North) via X11-users wrote:
> >> Hi All,
> >> I'm running Xquartz from the Macports build on High Sierra.
> >> Lots of things don't really work well
> >> 1) I have to run /opt/local/bin/Xquartz manually from a terminal, then
> >> start quartz-wm from the
> >> xterm it fires up. The Applications/Macports/X11.app just bounced
> >> endlessly.
> >> 2) Even when up, the drawing/rendering speed makes all X11 apps unusably
> >> slow.
> >> See https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/188
> >> <https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/188>
> >> Since X11 is my workhorse, this makes the whole OSX+X11 platform
> >> experience rather
> >> unworkable for me. I've taken to running linux via a VM on OSX - at least
> >> the X11 works well, but it's a heavyweight solution.
> >> It seems to me that without a fix this disqualifies OSX as a platform for
> >> people who depend on the huge legacy set of X11 codes.
> >>
> >> Are other people as plagued by these issues as well. Is there any hope of
> >> remediation for Xquartz
> >> or substitute/workaround people know of?
> >>
> >> Best wishes
> >> James.
> >>
>
>
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