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Re: Problems with XCode versus Project Builder
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Re: Problems with XCode versus Project Builder


  • Subject: Re: Problems with XCode versus Project Builder
  • From: Scott Tooker <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 12:15:29 -0800

On Dec 3, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Mike Lazear wrote:

> A month ago I switched from Project Builder to XCode.  I'm still
> learning XCode features so at this point I'm not sure if I like it
> better or worse than PB.
>
> Here are some of the problems/issues I've had with XCode:
>
> 1. In PB I had customized the toolbars to make it easy to bounce
> between windows.  I added the debug window icon to the build window
> toolbar and I added the build window icon to debug window toolbar.
> That made it very easy to bounce between the two.
>
> With XCode I've added the debug window icon to the build window
> toolbar.  However, on the customization for the debug window toolbar
> there is no build window icon.  There is a build icon and a build and
> debug icon but no icon that I can see that will let me bounce back to
> the build window.  Am I missing something here?  Any idea why that
> would have been removed?

For the next release we have made more toolbar items available across
the different windows, but this toolbar item slipped through the
cracks. Please file a bug for this and other toolbar items that are
missing from a given window.

>
> 2. I'm constantly calling up the Expressions window (or looking for it
> on the desktop).  Is there a way to have the Expressions "docked" or
> always shown within the Debug window.  The variable pane in the debug
> window that shows the local variables and parameters is great but why
> not have another arrow/triangle that shows all of the variables listed
> in the expressions window.  Any one know a better way to view global
> variables?

There's no current way to "dock" the Expressions window. I'd file a bug.

The problem with listing all globals is that you end up with a vast
numbers of variables that you don't care about and the stepping
performance goes way down. For a future version we've talked about
showing "the globals that matter" given the current position in the
code.

>
> 3. Sometimes when I look at the find results or list of errors from a
> build the results disappear.  I have to click on something else in the
> Groups & Files list on the left and then reclick on the file or
> results I want and then the results display correctly.  Is this a
> known problem?

I think this is fixed in the next version of Xcode, but if you have a
reproducible case, file a bug.

>
> 4. XCode crashes 2 or 3 times a day.  I'm hoping this is just standard
> "first release" problems and that the next release will be more
> stable.  It seems to happen at random times so I'm not really any help
> in suggesting why it happens.

We have fixed a lot of hands, crashes, and leaks for the next version.
If any of the crashes you are seeing are reproducible I'd file a bug.

>
> 5. Recently I had a problem with resources not be compiled into my
> application even though they showed in the Resource folder underneath
> my App in the Groups & Files list.  After a bunch of searching I found
> that if I clicked on the App name it showed a list of all files.  In
> my case the resource files check boxes were not checked.  Checking the
> boxes fixed my problem.

Okay, the 'Resources' group is just a group, it has no relation to what
the target contains. To see what is really in the target, look at the
various build phases for the target.

>
> This brings up a bigger point of what actually controls what files are
> included or not included in a build of my application.  The files that
> make up my app show up if I click on the App name, they show in the
> folders underneath the App name (Sources, Resources,...), they show up
> in the folders under Targets and they show up in the folder
> "Implementation Files".  What is the point of the files showing up in
> so many places and which one really controls the project?

As I mentioned above the build phases for a target show exactly what
that target will contain. You can also click once on the target to see
all the files it uses.

>
> 6. If I'm debugging my app and I terminate the debug, add a line of
> code, build and then debug again the breakpoints are all messed up.
> In order to clean it up I have to clean and then rebuild the entire
> app.  This seems like a bug in XCode to me.

Sounds like one to me. I know that there were issues with keeping the
breakpoint assigned to the proper line when editing the file. Please
file a bug.

Scott

>
> Any one know of the timeframe for an updated XCode?
>
> I appreciate all responses.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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