Re: Perforce Just Crashes?
Re: Perforce Just Crashes?
- Subject: Re: Perforce Just Crashes?
- From: Rob Lockstone <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:18:11 -0800
I think you're being a *little* harsh, imo of course.
I can't say anything about the integration with Perforce as I use CVS.
But the CVS integration seems to be working reasonably well. Better
than PB at least, since I no longer need SSH Passkey.
I think the UI definitely does take a little getting used to. It is
obviously significantly different from PB. But it definitely has some
nice capabilities that didn't exist in PB. It also has some glitches
and some mis/non-communication between some of the windows. But I am
confident these issues will be addressed. Keep in mind this is a 1.0
product. I think there's a good reason they called it "Xcode" instead
of "PB 3.0".
Having said that, if you have suggestions for improving Xcode you
should send them to email@hidden. And *definitely*
file feature requests and bug reports at <http://bugreport.apple.com>.
Posting to this discussion list is fine. Various Apple engineers,
especially Scott Tooker, have been good about posting responses to some
questions on this list. Nevertheless, this list isn't the official
channel for communicating with the engineers responsible for Xcode.
Your constructive criticism is more likely to get to the right people
if you file bug reports via bugreport.apple.com.
Rob
On Nov 14, 2003, at 13:21, Andy Gerweck wrote:
Has anybody got the Perforce support working? I finally found the
settings in the UI but setting anything in the username/password
fields just crashes Xcode immediately.
I'm really disappointed with the difficulty of the Xcode UI. Compared
with all of the other applications Apple's developed, Xcode really
feels like a hack. There's a lot of promise but the documentation is
terrible, hard to use and the whole environment is very unwelcoming.
I'm hoping that Xcode 1.1 comes soon and that Apple spends a lot of
time thinking about workflow for users learning the environment.
Getting properties on the Project to set up Perforce seems like a
Windows application. Why not have project settings under the project
menu!
It's such a shame because Objective C + Interface builder + Java is so
incredibly useful and powerful. I would love to have Apple sit down
and ask how to make Xcode as direct and useful as an iApp. Anyone who
knows OO programming could do great things with Apple's tools. That's
a lot of people and Apple would benefit from thinking of Xcode as a
consumer application instead of what seems to be an insider hack. I
feel like I'm fighting my way through the difficutly obstacles laid by
the UI to use the astounding simple and intuitive programming tools
underneath.
Please Apple, give us something great. You're on the right track but
Xcode needs nothing different from your other applications:
experience, UI, consistency, workflow. Instead we got distributed,
introspective, high performance.
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