Re: Xcode does seem hard on newbies(was Xcode release notes)
Re: Xcode does seem hard on newbies(was Xcode release notes)
- Subject: Re: Xcode does seem hard on newbies(was Xcode release notes)
- From: Ray Peterson <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2004 10:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
--- Nick Zitzmann <email@hidden> wrote:
>
> On Aug 4, 2004, at 9:56 PM, Ray Peterson wrote:
>
> > i find the
> > interface builder to Xcode connections to be
> > particularily weak
>
> Why is that? I've never had any problems switching
> between IB and Xcode
> (or PB before it).
well, painting a window in interface builder is fairly
straight forward and writing basic programs in xcode
is not too difficult after a couple of the online
tutorials.
connecting these together seems to be the most
daunting part for me.
creating an 'appController' subclass of NSObject,
instantiating it, creating files for it, control
dragging back and forth and then setting outlets and
target/actions just does not seem elegant or
accessable to me.
i suspect that some of the problems lie in the
model/view/controller concepts. i don't think i buy
the idea of controllers as objects. it seems like
someone got 'object happy' and is trying to jam
generic procedural code into an object. while this
might be big picture elegant (i.e. everything's an
object), at the design/coding level it seems to
obscure the significant differences between procedural
code and object/method code. every example of
controllers i've seen so far are just big event loops
just with different language around it(i.e. it's and
object sending messages instead of a big 'case'
statement calling procedures and functions).
ok, i'm ranting again so i'll stop.
...
> But you haven't explained any of the problems you've
> been having.
i hope the above gives you an inkling of what's been
frustrating me.
not that i expect anyone can really help that much at
this point to make things simpler. overall, what i'm
finding is that i will need to become quite conversant
in xcode, interface builder, the apple cocoa
environment framework and the MVC object oriented
concepts just to be able to write what i consider to
be simple programs.
others have commented on this thread that simple
things should be simple and i have to agree that this
is not the case in apple's development environment.
i'm not trying to slag the apple development team
though. i realize they probably have their hands full
as it's a very ambitious project. i'm just trying to
add my 2 cents to the comments others have made in
struggling to gain access to this complicated
environment in hopes it might help.
...
> Nick Zitzmann
> <http://seiryu.home.comcast.net/>
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>
...
ray peterson
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