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Is xcodebuild install output complete?
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Is xcodebuild install output complete?


  • Subject: Is xcodebuild install output complete?
  • From: Eric Ocean <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:08:06 -0800

I've read the man page, Apple's developer pages, etc. Is the output I'm seeing in my terminal everything I need to duplicate what xcodebuild install is doing in another build tool? Or are there hidden environment variables and who-knows-what-else that I'm not seeing? Any magic going on?

Best, Eric

P.s. If you're tempted to suggest that I continue to use Xcode and xcodebuild, please read on before replying:

- I don't want to use xcodebuild install. I've _been_ using it, and I've made a rational decision to cease using it and Xcode for Cocoa development. After releasing two applications, I can't waste any more time on those tools. If you're qualified to write code, you're qualified to manage a build down to the smallest detail. I know what result I want and communicating that to Xcode and xcodebuild in a reliable way has proven not to be possible for me. They've moved from help to hinderance.

- Since switching to TextMate (from BBEdit and Xcode), my coding speed has doubled (literally). It's a pain to manage Xcode and TextMate at the same time. I took up Ruby a few months ago and now I'm a script-writing maniac. I use it for everything. I've started embedding Ruby code (via ERb) in my C source and evaluating it before sending it to the compiler. It works great: no more preprocessor suffering. Xcode and xcodebuild are just the last to go. (I'll still use IB though :-). I'm moving my Cocoa builds to use Rake, a make replacement written in Ruby. Very cool.

- I don't want to file more bug reports, feature requests, or usability enhancements. It takes 15+ minutes to file a useful one, and I just don't have that much time. The hours I work need to actually _produce_ something, not be spent on charity (as much as I'd like to see Apple succeed).

- I think Xcode has potential and I encourage Apple to continue working on it. Fix-and-Continue and ZeroLink are cool. I'd probably like distributed builds, too.

- At the end of the day, I just have to earn a living. Given the amount of time I've expended working around problems with the tools, *I* can't continue to justify the expense. Your milage may differ :-).

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