re: Xcode
re: Xcode
- Subject: re: Xcode
- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:29:48 -0800
FYI
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Matthew Firlik <email@hidden>
> Date: March 1, 2004 12:20:20 PM PST
> To: Jay Zipnick <email@hidden>
> Cc: Godfrey DiGiorgi <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Xcode
>
>
> Jay:
>
> On Mar 1, 2004, at 12:05 PM, Jay Zipnick wrote:
>
>> Can you please clue me in about 1.1.1:
>> - Should I be using the Muon updates?
>> - How do I know which builds are "safe" to use?
>> - Will projects touched by Xcode 1.1.x be usable by colleagues using
>> Xcode 1.1, and vice-versa?
>>
>> I am aware that I can download newer versions of Muon from
>> cd.apple.com/CDs/Muon, but I haven't been doing this since Mathew
>> said in an earlier e-mail 'If you are willing to live on the
>> "bleeding edge" of things, you can download the update from
>> cd.apple.com'.
>
> Version 1.1.1 (Muon Plus, as we refer to it) is an update train for
> Xcode which is currently under development. The bulk of the changes
> to this revision are in the build-system, with a few fixes for major
> issues in other areas. Note that these changes are also going into
> the version of Xcode that is installed with Merlot, so if you are
> updating to Merlot occasionally, you already have the latest and
> greatest.
>
> If you are on Panther (and will remain there), then it may be useful
> to install Muon Plus. My comments before were that if you install the
> LOCAL roots (meaning, those in ~devapps), that those are the true
> "bleeding edge" since they are sometimes built from incremental
> changes on a developer's desktop. The versions available on
> cd.apple.com are more thoroughly tested before release, but there can
> and sometimes are issues with those as well.
>
> Xcode v1.1.x is completely backward compatible with Xcode v1.1, but as
> always its best to have everyone on the same version. As far as
> "should you be using it" -- the stable releases of our updates are
> always better than the previous versions, but it may not always
> address your top issues. All that being said, we shipped this
> version:
>
> https://cd.apple.com/CDs/Muon/Muon7K234/
>
> as a seed to external developers for testing. It is a stable release,
> and worth installing (for the crashes that it fixes). In the coming
> weeks, as we progress further in the Muon Plus train, we will be
> sending announcements to various email lists asking for those on
> Panther to test the releases. If you are on macosx-dev-internal,
> you'll see them.
>
> Let me know if you have any other questions.
>
> - matthew
>
>
>> - Jay
>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2004, at 7:00 PM, Jay Zipnick wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Godfrey,
>>>>
>>>> Your survey prompted me even more to move to Xcode (again). I again
>>>> crashed it within seconds. Radar 3573392.
>>>>
>>>> I am really concerned about Apple sending a strong message to
>>>> abandon Project Builder and move to Xcode, when Xcode is so much
>>>> less stable than Project Builder.
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents: We should concentrate on getting out an interim release
>>>> ASAP that is Xcode 1.1 with the top "n" UI warts and crashers
>>>> eliminated.
>>>>
>>>> - Jay
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