Re: Java, Xcode, CodeSense, java docs, etc.
Re: Java, Xcode, CodeSense, java docs, etc.
- Subject: Re: Java, Xcode, CodeSense, java docs, etc.
- From: Toni Trujillo Vian <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 14:26:07 -0700
Martin,
As one of the Directors of Engineering at Apple, I can guarantee you
that your time spent filing bugs is not useless. We can not respond to
all the bugs in our queues but do use Radar as an important tool when
determining what will be fixed from release to release. I view bugs in
Radar daily and my teams manage their work queues by what has been
filed.
You should know that we appreciate you talking the time to use our
products and report problems as you find them. This is one of the ways
Apple can we move the products forward to meet our customers needs.
Thank you,
Toni Trujillo Vian
Director, Interactive Tools
On Sep 23, 2004, at 1:14 PM, Martin Kahr wrote:
I am reading the same things to often.
* fill bug reports
* the more reports to a problem the higher the priority.
On the other side I spent a couple of hours to get one of my java
projects to work in XCode 1.5.
Then I spent a lot of time to isolate one of the java indexer bugs.
I reported the bug (id 3750183) on August 4. The bug still states
"Open/Analyze" which means
"If your bug is in Analyze State, your bug has been received by Apple
and is in queue for review or your bug is currently being reviewed."
If there is something unclear with this bug report I wonder why nobody
contacted me.
I reported another bug on 02-Sep-2003(!) which is still in
"Open/Analyze".
This makes me feel that my bug reports are useless.
I get no information if the bug is already fixed or if I did something
wrong...
Last week I reported a bug to eclipse. Reply next day. - it was really
a pleasure to report the bug.
Don't get me wrong. I don't expect to get a reply the next day. But
what I really miss a lot is some (one word would be better than the
current situation) kind of information about the further processing of
the bug.
I am really sorry about that (I tell a lot of people about how cool
apple is - but I avoid to tell them about this story)
Martin
Am 23.09.2004 um 20:51 schrieb Rob Lockstone:
I don't know what your current status is wrt this problem. But I
continue to have a very difficult time getting code completion for
java to work on both of my machines (latest OS, latest Xcode, latest
Java including SDK, etc). I tried all the "tricks" and HAVE seen it
working at times, but it breaks pretty quickly.
It's very strange. It will (sometimes) work in some files when I
first create a project, depending on how I create it. But it soon
reverts to the "words-in-file" style of completion. I filed a bug and
was even in contact with one of the Xcode engineers and sent him a
couple example projects and screenshots. I don't know if he's made
any progress on the problem or if this is just something they've
decided to table until Xcode 2.0 and Tiger.
I haven't seen many people complain about this on this list. But I
suspect that is true for a couple reasons:
1. Many Java developers don't use Xcode because it doesn't offer
stuff like code completion, refactoring, etc. Preferring instead to
use other Java-specific IDE's like IDEA, Eclipse, etc. I've stayed
with Xcode hoping that their Java support will continue to improve.
And I'm willing to wait, but I'm afraid there may not be many other
people out there like me.
2. Java developers who have stuck with Xcode don't care about code
completion or simply prefer the "words-in-file" style of completion
anyway.
Apple uses bug reports to help prioritize the work they do. And if
not many people are reporting bugs about Java Code Completion, then
it may not be on their radar (no pun intended) as much as other work.
So if anyone reading this doesn't have perfectly working Java Code
Completion, file a bug, because Apple needs to know. Then again,
maybe Brent has it working fine, and I'm back to being the only
person who can't get it to work reliably.
Rob
On Sep 23, 2004, at 9:28 AM, Brent Gulanowski wrote:
I can't get code completion operating in Xcode.
There was a recent thread on the subject which was a bit confusing,
but offered no help.
Facts:
- words-in-file completion works
- neither java.* nor my classes autocomplete
- nothing appears in the class browser
- I am running: X 10.3.5, XCode 1.5, Java 1.4.2 + developer 1 update
(August 10/04)
I found an entry in someone's blog describing a way to get it
working,
but stall where I'm supposed to unarchive the java docs -- the script
is not there, nor is the folder it is meant to be in
(/Developer/Docs/Java). Then again, the docs are already resident on
my system in /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Home/docs
(1.4.2).
The release notes for Xcode 1.5 suggest code completion for Java
just works.
Re-building my index does nothing.
I'm not sure what to do next. Help appreciated.
Thanks,
--
Brent Gulanowski
http://www.boredastronaut.com
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