XCode, next release...
XCode, next release...
- Subject: XCode, next release...
- From: Dix Lorenz <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 09:59:25 +0200
Hi Scott,
Just a reminder to people that technically you should not be
discussing any Xcode 2.2 seeds on this list since the seeds are
covered by an NDA :)
Also, we can't discuss the internals of when upcoming release will
go GM on this list. Just know that there is a lot of goodness in
the next release :)
While I can understand that you will not say when the next release is
coming, try seeing it from our point of view. XCode has bugs. Lots of
them and not only cosmetic ones. They stop me from being productive,
I fight XCode more than my own Code. With Codewarrior dead and Apple
telling us to use XCode, XCode is absolutely crucial to every single
developer out there. XCode has very prominent bugs in the Debugger,
in the Build System, compile times are slow and distributed builds
are very unreliable, linking is abysmal and CodeSense screws up its
index so often it's not even funny and even at it's best it could be
doing a lot more "sensing" about what completion would make the most
sense.
Right now I actually prefer developing on MS Visual Studio 6! At
least I know that the debugger will show me the values of my
variables which every IDE I've used for the last 20 years has done.
Except XCode which might just show me <incomplete type> (for
integers!!!). Code navigation is a lot faster ("Project Symbols"
would help, but it takes 4s to show me the list so I can start
looking for stuff and even then it is not very responsive) and simple
stuff like "which classes derive from this class", "which classes
derive from this class" or "where is this function called" is just a
click away (is it even possible in XCode?).
Any one or two of these I could live with and wait (more or less)
patiently for a fix. All of them together make XCode barely usable
and I count myself lucky that I can do a lot of my development on my
Windows machine (it hurts to say it but there it is).
We, the developers, do not only want the next release of XCode, we
*need* it. Some bugs are so prominent and obvious, they should have
been fixed and released in a small update just a few weeks after
XCode 2.1. I just hope the "lot of goodness in the next release"
refers to fixed bugs and not additional features only some of us
might use.
Just a question: I assume that Apple accompanies Preview Releases
with some kind of Readme and further assuming it would include a list
of known bugs, what does that mean? They are known and will be fixed
in the final release? They are known and might get fixed? They are
known and will be fixed in some release after the one coming up?
Don't get me wrong: If all the features worked as they should, XCode
would be a very good IDE. As it is, it just shows a lot of promise...
Greetings,
Dix
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