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Re: Multiple search windows?


  • Subject: Re: Multiple search windows?
  • From: Laurence Harris <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:34:30 -0400


On Oct 9, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Scott Thompson wrote:

On Oct 9, 2007, at 1:06 PM, kwiley wrote:
Am I only the only person who thinks this? Do other Mac programmers think XCode is the greatest thing every created and that anyone who complains about it is being unfair?

Well, that's not my perception. ;-)

If so, I apologize.

CodeWarrior's and XCode are two different products by two different teams. I find things that I preferred about each environment. For example, I find the XCode build system to be much, much more flexible than that of CodeWarrior. We used to set up a build process around CodeWarrior that used AppleScript and our own CodeWarrior plug-ins to get all the parts of our application built. The same tasks can be accomplished through XCode with pretty straightforward shell script build phases.

Yes, but after seven years you'd think the Xcode folks would have implemented more of the things CodeWarrior does better. The Find results issue is a basic issue that affects productivity for just about everyone, significantly so for at least some of us. Copying the features your competition does better is standard operating procedure in the software business.


You have legitimate complaints about XCode, but I've found the folks on the XCode development team to be remarkably responsive. I would encourage you to send your XCode feedback to xcode- email@hidden. And be sure to file enhancement bug reports at bugreport.apple.com. Perhaps with some patience, you might see some of your dearest wishes incorporated into the application in the future.

We've already waited seven years, and since Xcode 3 doesn't implement multiple find results windows it's safe to assume it will be at least a year or more before we see that even in a best-case scenario. I think that goes beyond "some patience." It's more like the patience of Job.


As I understand it, there are a lot of people on the Xcode team, on the order of 75-80, split into four or five groups. I freely admit I don't know everything involved in a project like Xcode, but it definitely doesn't seem like progress is being made at a breakneck pace.

I think a big part of the problem with Xcode is its history. Back when Project Builder -- Xcode's predecessor -- debuted in 1987 it was probably state-of-the-art cool and wonderful. Unfortunately, I suspect that once NeXTStep went from being a consumer OS to an enterprise solution, tools like Project Builder and Interface Builder were allow to languish and become badly outdated. As a result, by the time Apple got them and started updating them for Mac OS X they had a *lot* of work to do, and they're still hard at work at it.

Larry
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