Re: Eclipse Rather than XCode?
Re: Eclipse Rather than XCode?
- Subject: Re: Eclipse Rather than XCode?
- From: "Bob Hansen" <email@hidden>
- Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:24:31 -0500
I beg to differ about the quality of Xcode. I would be happy to see us begin using Eclipse for some of our projects around work. The only problem is, we need to be able to make univeral binaries for Intel processors on the Mac. Does anyone know if such a compiler is available for Eclipse?
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Brian Stern <
email@hidden> wrote:
Jason,
IMO you're wasting your time. Just use Xcode on the Mac and whatever makes sense on Win (probably VC).
Xcode is free and freely available. It is arguably the best tool for developing iTunes plugins on the Mac. It will be available in the future, will be updated promptly for new OS releases etc.
Making your source code cross-platform makes sense. Making your development tools cross-platform, not so much.
I can tell you that in the Photoshop SDK for building PS plugins on Mac and Win all the sample code is done as I mentioned above. Each sample plugin has a folder with cross-platform source files along with a folder that contains an Xcode project and another folder that contains a VC project.
Brian
On Apr 29, 2008, at 12:57 PM, J. Todd Slack wrote:
Hi Greg,
Thank you for the information.
I am building an iTunes Plugin for a client, Mac and Windows versions.
The client has little development experience, but used to write software approximately 20 years ago.
I am just trying to keep the source tree generic and easy to build cross-platform.
I am familiar with Ant, but to do C++ work you need a product from CodeMesh and they give no pricing on their website, nor can I get a demo without contacting them (which I did).
I could use QMake as part of Qt, but the client does not have Qt to use after I am done.
I could use CMake also, I just have never used it.
What do you think? Any suggestions based upon the above?
Thanks,
-Jason
On Apr 26, 2008, at 4:52 PM, Greg Guerin wrote:
J. Todd Slack wrote:
I have a client that wants a cross-platform C++/OpenGL app written and wants a nice way to build cross-platform.
I was thinking Eclipse. But is this possible?
Can one link to OS X Frameworks?
Can Eclipse build .apps?
Ant will build cross-platform. Eclipse also has an Ant module. The build instructions in build.xml would differ depending on the host platform, but it should be possible to factor out a lot of commonality.
Ant tasks can run a command-line tool, so yes, it could link to OS X frameworks. You mainly need to know what the command-line is. For that, you can look at the build transcript that Xcode produces and do what it does.
Finally, there is an app-bundle builder for Ant. It currently builds app-bundles from jar-files, but it shouldn't be rocket science to modify it to produce a native app-bundle. Source and jars available here:
<http://informagen.com/JarBundler/>
Big picture: it depends on what latitude the client gives you. They might not want JRE + Ant + Eclipse, or whatever. That would argue for cmake or the like. Also depends on how cross-platform the builds really have to be. Does Mac OS X have to build a Windows .exe?
Also, "edit and build" is not the same as "build". I can run Ant from command-line without using Eclipse, or I can use an existing Ant build.xml and source-tree with Xcode. So even if we were both working on the same project, you could use Eclipse and I could use Xcode, as long as the source and build.xml remained in sync.
-- GG
Brian Stern
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