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Re: Age Old Question: How Do You Set __MyCompanyName__
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Re: Age Old Question: How Do You Set __MyCompanyName__


  • Subject: Re: Age Old Question: How Do You Set __MyCompanyName__
  • From: "Bill Lowrey" <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:27:11 -0600

I would have to concur with this. It seems like an obvious answer, especially given the fact that it is such a common question.

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On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Jonathon Kuo <email@hidden> wrote:
Hmm, associating Xcode with Address Book sounds eerily ... Microsoftian. 

Most development systems I've used aren't personal-use systems, and I haven't (or wouldn't think to or want to) set up an Address Book on them. 

Also, having the company name string in Address Book doesn't let you tailor the exact string for the purpose of Xcode products, so why even bother look in AB for it? That's an abuse of AB. 

The obvious place for it is within Xcode. That's where most developers look for it.


On Dec 18, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Andy Lee wrote:

I don't think this is overkill at all.  I think:

* There should be an Xcode-wide default setting for the value that is used for __MyCompanyName__.

* You should be able to tell what that default setting is by looking in Xcode's preferences, because that's the first place you're going to look -- not in the Xcode 3.1 release notes.

* It's fine to have "whatever is in Address Book" as a default.

* If "whatever is in Address Book" is the default, there should be a button in Xcode that takes you to Address Book, or some such UI, so you can conveniently edit the value.

* You should have the option to use something else as the default, because you may want to identify with a different organization for whatever purposes that Address Book uses that field for (what are those purposes, anyway?) -- including not wanting an organization name in Address Book at all.

* You should be able to specify a different organization, overriding the default, on a per-project basis.

I seem to recall there are other placeholders that can be put into project file templates, not just organization name.  I suspect it would not be appropriate to have these be fields in Address Book.  Therefore I think there should be a preference tab in Xcode dedicated to these placeholders.  This would make clear what the complete list is and what reasonable default values are for each, and it would make it convenient for developers to set their values.

This information should not be buried in oral tradition, and I'm frankly surprised there's any debate about this.  The fact that this has been asked about time and time again should really be a glaring clue that this functionality should be exposed in UI. A developer shouldn't have to search list archives to find out that the information is in a paragraph of the Xcode 3.1 release notes.

I will file a radar, but first I'm going to lunch.  If someone wants to post a rdar: number they've already filed, I'd be happy to refer to it.

--Andy


On Dec 18, 2008, at 12:12 PM, David Dolinar wrote:

IMHO, if we're going to "please everyone" there should be a radio button controlling where __MyCompanyName__ originates... but it just seems overkill.

__MyCompanyName__ source:
O from My Address Book Card
O from project setting
O from [__Text Edit Box__]

I do not want to set __MyCompanyName__ EVERY TIME I create a new project seeing as I work with many small projects.  I think it would be best to have it be a per-project setting but have that project setting default to what my address card is set to.

-- David Dolinar

On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Jeffrey Oleander <email@hidden> wrote:
> From: Chris Hanson <email@hidden>
> Subject: Re: Age Old Question:  How Do You Set __MyCompanyName__
> To: "Steve Mills" <email@hidden>
> Cc: email@hidden
> Date: Wednesday, 2008 December 17, 21:20
>> On 2008 Dec 17, at 19:00, Steve Mills wrote:
>> This is exactly why it should be a field in Prefs.
>> Why is this so hard to figure out, Apple?

> Let me turn this around:  Why should it be in Xcode's
> preferences?  It's a field in your Address Book card,
> and Xcode will take it from there now.
>   -- Chris

* Because it's a setting that affects individual projects
differently when working within Xcode it should be an
Xcode project preference

* Because the Address Book is a hacker magnet

* Because there is no "your Address Book card" there.



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 >Re: Age Old Question: How Do You Set __MyCompanyName__ (From: Chris Hanson <email@hidden>)
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 >Re: Age Old Question: How Do You Set __MyCompanyName__ (From: "David Dolinar" <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Age Old Question: How Do You Set __MyCompanyName__ (From: Andy Lee <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Age Old Question: How Do You Set __MyCompanyName__ (From: Jonathon Kuo <email@hidden>)

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