Re: Interface Builder popularity w/ Cocoa Developers
Re: Interface Builder popularity w/ Cocoa Developers
- Subject: Re: Interface Builder popularity w/ Cocoa Developers
- From: Todd Heberlein <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:47:11 -0700
On Jun 15, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Bryan Henry wrote:
There isn't one, sorry. Complain to Apple if you're not happy about
it, but I doubt they'll do anything since they haven't shown any
cares about resolving the "no means of collaboration" problem so far
and, frankly, haven't seemed to care about developers' concerns with
the way iPhone SDK talk is currently squelched.
The ADC web site would be the perfect place to host a forum, since by
the fact you've logged in you are acknowledging that you are under NDA
and shouldn't share anything outside the forum. While I would love
such a feature, I can think of a number of reasons Apple would prefer
*not* to have such a capability:
(1) Lawyers: I work with them, but I don't understand them. There may
be issues that worry the lawyers that we technical people cannot fathom.
(2) Magnification problems: Forums often become a mob mentality with
feedback loops causing some issues to be blown out of proportion while
important ones are buried. By not allowing us to communicate, Apple
breaks that feedback look. We should still file reports to Apple about
our experiences and problems.
(3) Bad press: If I find some bug or embarrassing mistake, I publish
how to expose this embarrassing mistake, many other people (who would
otherwise have not run across this problem) follow my instructions to
duplicate the issue, and then it make it out to all the blogs. This is
like the magnification issue -- an embarrassing but minor problem gets
blown out of proportion by feedback loops, but in this case it
eventually makes to press.
(4) Commitment issues: By keeping things NDA (and other wordings that
Apple uses in its prerelease software), I wonder if it makes it easier
for them to withdraw features before releasing the product. I've
personally been excited to see planned features that I I can use only
to be disappointed when they cut out the features before the product
is released.
(5) Swamped: Apple engineers and IT staff are probably swamped with
everything and may simply not have the time to implement an
appropriate forum.
(6) Money. Apple does provide developer tech support for a price. I've
never thought about it before, but maybe this is a revenue source for
them.
Still, I think an ADC-hosted forum (with ADC login and password
required) for NDA covered software would be an excellent idea. Here
are a few reasons why:
(1) We could help each other offloading some of burden on Apple,
especially when it comes to understanding how to do something that the
NDA code can already do.
(2) It would generate good will for Apple.
(3) When there is a real bug, being able to accurately, consistently,
and concisely reproduce the problem is important for tracking down and
solving the problem. Collaboration by our group could accelerate the
process, so Apple gets better quality bug reports. Better quality bug
reports means more efficient use of Apple's own developers' time,
which in turn means faster development of better quality code.
(4) When Apple ships the product and releases the NDA, there are more
3rd-party products ready to go because we've been able to solve our
own problems faster on the forum.
But I think I am off topic here, and I suspect I am about to be
scolded by the moderator. :-/
Todd
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