Re: Creating a Java Tool - Newbie questions
Re: Creating a Java Tool - Newbie questions
- Subject: Re: Creating a Java Tool - Newbie questions
- From: "Sherm Pendley" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:21:37 -0400
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 6:49 PM, Dmitry Markman <
email@hidden> wrote:
I think it's very good that there are tools such an ant,
maven, make e.t.c.
so people can use whatever they like
but nobody should force anybody to use it.
No one is forcing you to use anything. If you don't like the default project templates, make your own. It's not rocket surgery.
ant isn't any official standard,
You might want to research the term "de facto standard." It may not have the ISO's blessing, but ant is by far the most widely-used build system in Javaland. That's why it's the default.
I would vote against replacing Java tool project template
build system from jam to ant.
It's not a question of either/or, it's a question of which one is the default. Ant is the default presumably because Apple believes the majority of their users want it that way, and judging by how few users are complaining, I'd say they're correct about that.
it looks like
Apple made some compromise - Xcode still has Java tool target
as jam target, not ant based. that is acceptable (to me at least)
It's not acceptable to you that the most common choice is the default? Why on earth not?
but still I don't think that I should force people (even if those people
are newbies :-) ) to use ant
(I would give them a choice), especially
There is a choice. No one is forcing you to use the Apple-supplied project templates. If you're teaching a class, just create your own templates and install them on student's machines - problem solved.
besides, programmers are not right people to decide
what is a best set of the tools for the newbies
teachers are, marketing people are
they can listen programmers opinion of course
but programmers shouldn't decide
what is a best way to teach people how to program.
Marketing people should teach programming? LOL! Thanks - that's the best laugh I've had all day.
sherm--
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