RE: Books?
RE: Books?
- Subject: RE: Books?
- From: "Pistone, Joe" <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 17:01:26 -0700
- Thread-topic: Books?
Title: RE: Books?
I have to agree with Jason here. For about $31 it isn't worth the introductory frustration. Coming from a background in Xcode, yes, you could make do with the 2nd edition. But for a novice, I think I'd spring for the newest edition.
-----Original Message-----
From: xcode-users-bounces+jpistone=email@hidden on behalf of Jason Sallis
Sent: Sat 5/17/2008 8:12 AM
To: Jason Stephenson
Cc: Xcode Users
Subject: Re: Books?
I would completely disagree. As someone who has read both editions, I
would highly recommend ditching the 2nd edition and getting the 3rd.
As Jason Stephenson pointed out, the examples are almost the same
between editions, with a number of additions on topics that were
introduced in tiger and Leopard, so you could get by on the 2nd
edition from a technical point of view. However, if you're just
getting started with Xcode, the differences in workflow and
screenshots (primarily IB, but others as well) between editions could
be enough to confuse and frustrate you to the point of dropping the
idea of learning both Cocoa and Xcode. I've seen a number of posts
from people on this list and others, where people have gotten
themselves completely turned around trying to match up Xcode 3 to the
Xcode 2.x screenshots. It's true that the Apple docs are really good
and you can learn a ton from them, but the Hillegas book is still the
best starting point.
- Jason
On 17-May-08, at 4:54 AM, Jason Stephenson wrote:
> marc hoffman wrote:
>> is this worth getting [the 3rd edition of Hillegass' Cocoa
>> Programming for Mac OS X] for someone who has the 2nd edition, hasn't
>> really read it intensively yet, and is just getting started with
>> Xcode 3?
>
> The short answer is probably "No."
>
> The examples and screen shots are all done with Xcode 3.1,
> apparently, in the 3rd edition. There are some changes in Xcode 3.0
> over 2.x, particularly as regards Interface Builder integration and
> wiring up delegates. If you already know these differences, then you
> don't need this book.
>
> Some of the material coverage has changed slightly. I believe that
> some of the chapters have been rearranged. Some material removed,
> and some material added. There looks to be more coverage of Core
> data in the 3rd edition, and there is a chapter on garbage collection.
>
> If you have a Safari account, then I'd suggest reading the 3rd
> Edition on there, but if you have to spend money on it, and you
> already have the 2nd edition, then don't. There's really nothing in
> the 3rd edition that you couldn't pick up from the Apple docs after
> doing the 3rd Edition.
>
> Cheers,
> Jason
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| References: | |
| | >Books? (From: Scott Ribe <email@hidden>) |
| | >RE: Books? (From: "Pistone, Joe" <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Books? (From: marc hoffman <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Books? (From: Jason Stephenson <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: Books? (From: Jason Sallis <email@hidden>) |