RE: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings
RE: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings
- Subject: RE: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings
- From: Alex Sheh <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 14:24:43 -0700
- Acceptlanguage: en-US
- Thread-topic: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings
Thank you for the detailed responses, Shawn. Thanks, Clark, I just saw your email, and your explanation is also very clear.
So my understanding is, if I build a 64-bit Objective-C application, then it can only run on 10.5 or later (since there is no 64-bit Objective-C runtime on 10.4). And if I want an Objective-C application to run on 10.4, then it must be compiled as 32-bit.
This would mean that I need to ship 2 versions of the software, an installer containing the 32-bit version of the Objective-C application to run on 10.4 (Tiger), and another installer containing the 64-bit version of the Objective-C application to run on 10.5 (Leopard) or later.
I can't think of any way to use universal binaries to avoid shipping 2 different installers. A user could be running either 10.4 or 10.5 on any given ppc64 machine, and the ppc64 binary would have to be either 32-bit or 64-bit, but not both. Just wanted to make sure I'm not overlooking anything here regarding possible deployment solutions.
Specifically for us, we have a Cocoa-based preference pane, and a couple other plugins and an app that are using a smattering of classes from the Foundation framework. These are the ones that we would like to compile as 64-bit to run on 10.5 or later. I suppose for the latter non-Cocoa apps, if I refactored/removed the Objective-C dependencies (usage of Foundation framework, etc.), then I could just use runtime checks to make sure that any other 10.5 functions I use are indeed available.
Does that make sense, am I understanding this correctly?
Thanks so much for the help.
Best,
Alex
-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Erickson [mailto:email@hidden]
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:23 AM
To: Alex Sheh
Cc: Xcode List
Subject: Re: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Alex Sheh <email@hidden> wrote:
> Thanks for the replies, Shawn.
>
> I was considering using the below settings. This way, on ppc and x86, I wouldn't have to put additional runtime checks for function availability (since the ppc and x86 binaries would be building against 10.4 as well as deploying on 10.4).
>
> SDKROOT = macosx10.4
> SDKROOT[arch=ppc64] = macosx10.5
> SDKROOT[arch=x86_64] = macosx10.5
> MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET = 10.4
> MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET[arch=ppc64] = 10.5
> MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET[arch=x86_64] = 10.5
>
> But with respect to the below settings, doesn't this mean that on ppc64 and x86_64, the software would only run on 10.5 or later? We need to support 10.4 or later on ppc64 and x86_64.
Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger) only supports 64-bit binaries that link against libSystem (aka POSIX, etc.) and handful of low-level libraries/frameworks. You cannot build an Objective-C / Cocoa / etc.
using application for 64b using the 10.4 SDK.
> However, I'm unable to use the below settings, because if I build against the 10.5 SDK, Xcode warns me that there is a new Objective-C ABI that requires me to deploy on 10.5 or later.
As it should since no 64b Objective-C runtime exists on 10.4.
I suggest you do the following and put in the needed runtime checks in your code. This gives your customers the best experience by allowing your software to leverage the features of the operating system you are running on.
SDKROOT = macosx10.5
MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET = 10.4
MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET[arch=ppc64] = 10.5 MACOSX_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET[arch=x86_64] = 10.5
-Shawn
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| | >64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings (From: Alex Sheh <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings (From: Ken Thomases <email@hidden>) |
| | >RE: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings (From: Alex Sheh <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings (From: Shawn Erickson <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings (From: Shawn Erickson <email@hidden>) |
| | >RE: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings (From: Alex Sheh <email@hidden>) |
| | >Re: 64-bit, 10.5/10.4, SDK build settings (From: Shawn Erickson <email@hidden>) |