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Re: What VCS do you use with xCode?
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Re: What VCS do you use with xCode?


  • Subject: Re: What VCS do you use with xCode?
  • From: Panagiotis Atmatzidis <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:16:10 +0200


On 22 Μαρ 2009, at 7:58 ΜΜ, Nick Zitzmann wrote:


On Mar 22, 2009, at 8:22 AM, Panagiotis Atmatzidis wrote:

Which system do you think is the best to use with xCode for VCS small projects?


Well, you have a number of free choices (e.g. CVS, Subversion, Bazaar, Mercurial, and Git) and a few commercial choices. I've used the above five free choices, and here is what I think about them: (+ is good, - is bad)

CVS:
+ It works - usually
+ Tagging support
- Folders can be created but not deleted
- Files and folders cannot be renamed once checked in (without blowing away history)
- Commits are not atomic
- It's a C2S application, so if the server is down, you're hosed


Subversion: Pretty much the same as CVS, except...
+ Folders can be deleted
+ Files and folders can be renamed
+ Existing files and folders can be copied
+ Commits are atomic
- No real tag support; you have to use subfolders (or other repositories) and pretend they are tags
- Under absolutely no circumstances must you ever use the BDB back- end; they are trivial to corrupt, a pain to upgrade, and don't work if you switch CPU architectures


Bazaar and Mercurial: Similar to Subversion, except...
+ They're distributed applications, so no server = no problem
+ Tagging support
+ No BDB back-end
- Initially checking out a project takes a very long time
- Xcode doesn't support them, and the Xcode developers are apparently in no rush to support them (but there are third-party GUI solutions available)


Git: Similar to Bazaar and Mecurial, except...
+ In addition to adds and deletes requiring staging, modifications also must be staged
- The built-in GUI app is a little glitchy


The only SCM system I cannot recommend under any circumstances is CVS. If you're starting from scratch, then I would recommend Git, though Bazaar and Mercurial are nice too. Subversion was kind of neat five years ago, and was a big improvement over CVS, but I wouldn't start with it now.

I've never used the commercial systems before, so I can't comment on them.

Nick Zitzmann
<http://seiryu.home.comcast.net/>





Thank you for the detailed answer. I'm trying to use Git but as explained in my prior email, it's kinda tricky to find a "secure" way for all the users to commit to the server. I need https + user pass options probably, while SVN is already setup and working flawlessly with TextMate and Xcode.

Panagiotis (atma) Atmatzidis

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