Re: Writing Cocoa apps w/o using Interface Builder
Re: Writing Cocoa apps w/o using Interface Builder
- Subject: Re: Writing Cocoa apps w/o using Interface Builder
- From: Jonathan Mast <email@hidden>
- Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 17:06:57 -0400
No offense taken, Seth. I figured out the issue and indeed it was a missed connection in IB. And while my previous comments were hyperbolic, I still think Apple could have done better with Cocoa/InterfaceBuilder. Either they could have made IB more intuitive and/or Cocoa easier to manipulate programmatically. I just expect more from Apple I guess.
I've spent basically the whole day on this issue :(
Sam,
Most of my work involves Java, mostly server-side now, but I taught myself Java by creating little GUI programs programmatically. I use NetBeans rather than Eclipse for a variety of reasons...
I always write Java user interfaces programmatically, in my experience, the GUI designers for Java all generate code that really is PoS. I've worked on programs whose GUI was designed graphically and spent many hours wading thru tons boilerplate code to find an error. So perhaps those experiences have prejudiced me against graphical GUI development, idk.
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Seth Willits
<email@hidden> wrote:
Don't take this the wrong way, but: get over it. IB is not a PoS. Forgetting to connect something is part of being new, not because the tool is crap. If you were familiar with Cocoa you'd be able to know what the problem was quickly and simply fix the connection in under 5 seconds. It'd be no slower than forgetting a line of code. Once you learn how IB should be used, how to use it, and that it's not magical, you'll realize there's no reason to not use it. It's a big time saver.
Anyway, again... don't take it personally.
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Seth Willits
On May 29, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Jonathan Mast wrote:
Yeah IB definitely feels like a PoS right now. The annoying thing is that I downloaded a simple tutorial that is basically a launcher to a website, i plugged in my URL and it worked fine. So i go to create a new project that will be just like the alter tutorial, except with a different name. Copy and paste the code, renaming appropriately, and creating the XIBs with the right objects, and so on. But it will not work! It compiles fine but i get the White Screen of Oblivion on the iPhone Simulator. It must be a missing connection in IB, but I just can't figure what is not connecting. Hence my desire to bypass IB all together.
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