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Re: clang-llvm: Tracking core OS crashes (Found! It's the 10.4 SDK)
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Re: clang-llvm: Tracking core OS crashes (Found! It's the 10.4 SDK)


  • Subject: Re: clang-llvm: Tracking core OS crashes (Found! It's the 10.4 SDK)
  • From: Brian Barnes <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 08:48:52 -0400

Rich Siegel wrote:
On 9/9/09 at 11:10 PM, email@hidden (Brian Barnes) wrote:

Apple guys/gals -- here's where the problem lays.  It's the 10.4 SDK.

clang-llvm on 10.5, compiles without a problem, runs fine
clang-llvm on 10.4, crashes in OS routines (usually interface routines)

I'm pretty certain that 10.4 is not a supported deployment target for binaries built with clang, although I can't find mention as such in the 3.2 release notes.
Anybody at Apple want to verify this? It *mostly* works -- there's only a small subset of things that crash that I've detected -- and I'm not exactly sure what the differences would be between the 10.4/10.5 SDK that wouldn't allow this work (i.e., bevel buttons are still supported, carbon hasn't changed much in years, etc). My attempted targets are:

ppc = sdk 10.4, gcc 4.0
i386 = dsk 10.4, clang-llvm

I *suspect* the problem isn't in clang, but instead in llvm/10.4. If I can't use it with 10.4, that will be disappointing, but not the end of the world. Everything I've read I'd love to be able to move to clang/llvm, it's much faster (clang) and eliminates the old days of figuring out the best scheduling, compiler settings, etc (llvm).

Since clang/llvm is relatively new (compared to gcc) -- what's going to be the upgrade cycle on this? A nightly build like webkit might be nice (as I've encountered a number of bugs.) Again, if I have to wait for major releases, not a big deal, just wondering.

To the best of my recall and experience, the target compatibility of compilers and SDKs goes something like this:


gcc-4.0: target i386/ppc, sdk 10.4, 10.5, 10.6
gcc-4.2: target i386/ppc, sdk 10.4, 10.5, 10.6 -- see note 1
llvm-gcc-4.2 target i386, sdk 10.5, 10.6 -- see note 2
clang target i386, sdk 10.5, 10.6 -- see note 3
My compile refused to use gcc 4.2 against 10.4, this might be a mistake on my part, though it doesn't seem to be supported.

[>] Brian
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