| whiny you said? not it isn't whiny, it's funny that you're saying that that was whiny. On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Jens Alfke wrote:
Apple is supposed to produce tools for developers, so Apple shouldn't dictate what SCM system to use
This is starting to sound whiny. Apple doesn’t 'dictate what SCM system to use'. They don’t dictate what programming language you use either, but Xcode doesn’t syntax-highlight COBOL or ship with a Lua interpreter.
you know what I don't care, I personally use command line tools and emacs (for SCM) and frankly Xcode support for CVS was (how I can put it) not really good (again take a look at BBEdit, Eclipse and maybe just maybe Apple can learn something from them)
and you know what Xcode doesn't sing either or Xcode doesn't dance what else? there are many things that Xcode doesn't do, so why it's relevant?
they should provide plugin system (and AFAIK, Xcode 4.0.X doesn't have such a system, but Xcode 3.X has) , so 3rd party developers will be able to provide support to whatever SCM system other developers need
The Xcode 3 SCM plugin interface was internal, and never made public. I know of at least one 3rd party plugin for it, but it was either unofficially reverse-engineered, or they got some kind of one-off license from Apple.
A solid SCM interface to an IDE is probably pretty complex, especially if it has to be generic, since every SCM system seems to have something that makes it significantly different from all the others.
so? what are saying that Apple can't produce solid plugin architecture for Xcode? well, unfortunately, that is true
but why I'm complaining, it's not as bad as Carbon 64 was handled, THAT was REALLY bad.
(and don't start here that Cocoa is better than Carbon that is not relevant)
they may be good for producing good smart phones, but it looks like they don't know how to produce tools for developers
they should take a look at 15 years old Metrowerks IDE, maybe they will learn something :-)))
Oh jeez, let’s just compare Apple to Hitler and pre-emptively end this thread now[1]. Because if not, the moderator is probably going to smack it down very soon anyway.
that is moderator's business, not yours, sorry also what it has to do with Hitler? you said that, not me, so moderator should smack your post down, not mine
you can say more and compare Apple's to Lenin or to Buddha or to Moses choose whoever you like but it's not relevant
what I said that Apple doesn't have backward compatibility, don't like to hear it? well, I'm sorry, but that is true. and that is very bad (IMHO)
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