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Re: Xcode 5.0
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Re: Xcode 5.0


  • Subject: Re: Xcode 5.0
  • From: Luther Baker <email@hidden>
  • Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:44:03 -0500

You do realize that just such a commercial IDE exists, right?

http://www.jetbrains.com/objc/

Note that this IDE, from a software company known the world over for nothing but IDEs and build tools ... still, does not have all the capability of Xcode, although, it does REFACTOR more completely and has a better tab/console strategy in my opinion.

Its out there ... just sayin :)

-Luther

Oh - and yes, I loved Xcode 3 ... with its completely separate IB and console windows and all! Miss it.



On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 3:55 AM, Dave <email@hidden> wrote:

On 23 Sep 2013, at 23:50, Alex Zavatone <email@hidden> wrote:


On Sep 19, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Jonathan del Strother wrote:

On 19 September 2013 13:11, Jonathan del Strother <email@hidden> wrote:

And one thing I LOVE is that the sliding in and sliding out animations on the nav and info panels are now GONE.  Command 0, 1, 2,4, Command Option 0, 1, 2.  Instant response of the UI.  No more sliding and waiting for the display to finish.
 
Huh.  I still have the animations :(   Did I miss a secret switch somewhere?



I just downloaded the latest version Monday and I certainly hope that what I am seeing is not a fluke.  When I'm on my box with Xcode 5, I'll check which version it is and let you know.

In the meantime, I discovered this - https://github.com/mralexgray/Xcode-4-Fixins/tree/xcode5-gm-uuid/XCFixin_DisableAnimations - which is awesome.

If I can turn off the zoom out and zoom in animations in the storyboard, turn off the roll out animation s of items within folders, I will be a happier man

Honestly, it seems that there are two teams working on Xcode.  One who actually uses it and writes the underlying code and another that has never touched the product and designs the GUI.  If any of the people working on the product's GUI actually had to create Mac and iOS apps with it, we wouldn't have these odd UI changes that make Xcode worse.

Yes, that's exactly how it feels! Like there is someone straight out of Design School or Computer Science and have a non real world idea of what XCode should "look" like and as long as it looks like that they are happy and who cares whether its actually usable or not. I don't even think it looks good! All those cheap animations are cute for 10 seconds or so and then they become a real drag. I reckon the drop in quality we have seen in Mac OS Lion and Mountain Lion is caused by their engineers having to fight XCode.  I know that since I've had to use XCode 4 things are taking longer to get done than under XCode 3. 

Check out the shortcut keys for zooming in to the storyboard.  They require you to hold down the shift key, which forces the zoom to be in slow motion.  Hard to believe.

The Storyboard handling is just rubbish! It's almost unusable on my Mac Pro under XCode 5. I can't imagine how anyone could release this, it's just not finished! But even if it all worked fine, it would still be way harder to use than it need be since they insist in shoving everything into one window!

I was tempted to report the Organiser being in a separate window as a bug, except that if I did they'd probably give that #1 priority and in XCode 5.1 we'd have the oraniser shoved in there as well! It it could pop up un the middle of the window, and animate all the other panes out of the way it would be really cool man! I mean, at the moment we only have around 6 panes shoved into one window, with a bit of effort I'm sure we could a squeeze in 9! 

I just wish someone would bring out a latter day CodeWarrior, I'd gladly pay £500 Per Year for some decent tools!

All the Best
Dave


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