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Re: New looks [not] replacing Metal?
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Re: New looks [not] replacing Metal?


  • Subject: Re: New looks [not] replacing Metal?
  • From: John Stiles <email@hidden>
  • Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:20:47 -0700

Please tell me this picture and description are filed in Radar :)
I don't understand how 1 and 3 could have differing behavior. Is it because Build has a popup menu and Clean doesn't?
(PS I also think it's sad that you'd need to use Clean so often in Xcode that you'd put it in a toolbar :) )



Sean McBride wrote:

On 2005-07-29 13:05, Michael Ströck said:



I agree. In general, though, I think that brushed metal and the unified look make much more sense. In "traditional" windows, the space between toolbar buttons is just that -- empty and useless space that can not even be used for dragging the window around. The distiction between titlebar and toolbar is rather arbitrary and doesn't really add anything.



On the contrary, the space is not useless at all. It provides predictability. With the unified look it's much harder to know what your click will do. Most of the problem is with the toolbar itself though, clicks between items, clicks on item icons vs item text, clicks in items with small icons but big labels. With the regular look, the toolbar is both visually and behaviourally distinct, and that's helpful to the user.

Look at this image
<http://www.rogue-research.com/seantemp/UnifiedToolbarInXCode.png >

and predict for me what will happen if a drag is started at each of the
red dots. Answers, from left to right:
1) moves window
2) moves window
3) clicks toolbar item
4) clicks toolbar item
5) moves window
6) clicks toolbar item

Notice especially 4 vs 5.  5-10 pixels apart, totally different
behaviour, and exactly the same visual appearance! Yay!

Did you predict 100% correctly?  How do you think non-power users will do?



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