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Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
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Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion


  • Subject: Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion
  • From: Ulrich Köster <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:22:27 +0100

Am 25.03.2004 um 03:45 schrieb James Cicenia:

Well for my two cents... I was a complete newbie when I started my project and I have to say that
I am very pleased with Eclipse. Mind you it has some idiosyncrasies but I have learned to deal with
them in my own idiosyncratic methods. I still can't figure out how to search all my files including the
wod files.

Search file under the search menu.

Ulrich

Chuck do you know how? Also, I do have to rebuild when I edit my wod files in WOBuilder.
Finally WOBuilder doesn't always see all the new methods in my subclasses. Other than that it has
worked like a charm and has only crashed once on my Powerbook and we are talking 12 hours days
of use.


-James


On Mar 24, 2004, at 8:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

Where shall I start. It crashes more than Eclipse. The indexing is painful and serves no function that I can discern. It loves to cache out of date things in the build directory so that builds fail on out of date problems. The project file format is too complex to fix by hand when problems happen. The whole targets and build configuration thing is a byzantine nightmare. Try WOProject and Ant. You'll never go want to go back. Code completion blows. The auto/re indent works better than Eclipse though. I hate waiting for it to build. Eclipse stays build with every change. It is always ready to run. Clumsy configuration of launch parameters. The debugger is lacking. Eclipse shows errors on the fly as you type. It has an integrated class browsers that does not hide things that Apple thinks you should not see. xCode was not built to build Java (or WO apps). I could go on but I've work to do.

Chuck



On Mar 24, 2004, at 2:43 PM, Owen McKerrow wrote:

Hi Chuck,

I've been using xCode for about 1 week and nothing serious at that ( going back and adding Java Doc style comments to some old code ). Im curious as to what problems you have with XCode. Cause if its a sbad as you say it is then, yes I will be looking at swapping. But so far I don't see any major problems. Maybe its that I have never seen the greener pastures and so don't know how good lif could be.

Anyways just wondering what you see as the major problems/hassles of developing WO in XCode.

Owen

On 25/03/2004, at 4:30 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On Mar 24, 2004, at 7:10 AM, Jim Rankin wrote:

On Mar 23, 2004, at 7:53 PM, Owen McKerrow wrote:

For any of my complied classes ( or indeed the WebObjects classes e.g.
EOGenericRecord ) code completion works, however it doesn't work for
standard Java classes such as String.


My understanding is that it can complete terms found elsewhere in the
same file. Is that what you're experiencing?


For me, however, the problem is that Java indexing makes XCode utterly
unusable. It wants to index every single jar and class file in my
project any time the slightest thing changes, which brings GUI
responsiveness to almost a complete stop. So I have indexing turned
off now.


Is my experience shared by others? Or am I just doing something wrong?

Well, depending on how you look at it you might be doing something wrong. :-) I have the same experience with xCode. Usually I use Eclipse/WOLips but have switched to xCode due to client requirements. In a nutshell, xCode blows for WO development. I'll have an ear to ear grin when I go back to Eclipse. You might want to consider switching, unless you'd rather fight... ;-)

Chuck
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 >Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Owen McKerrow <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Jim Rankin <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Owen McKerrow <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: Chuck Hill <email@hidden>)
 >Re: Off Topic : XCode, Java and Code Completion (From: James Cicenia <email@hidden>)

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