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Re: [Newbie] Lincensing of WO apps
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Re: [Newbie] Lincensing of WO apps


  • Subject: Re: [Newbie] Lincensing of WO apps
  • From: Marc Oesch <email@hidden>
  • Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:14:10 +0100

Ken,

>I really don't understand where there are doubts. The license
specifically says you can use the >Development license to deploy
anywhere you want. What doubts are there?

There are two doubts:

1)
http://www.apple.com/webobjects/specs.html says:

- Requires only *one license per machine*, regardless of platform,
speed, or number of processors

Due to the wording of the new 5.3.1 license, it's not clear whether
you still need a separate license per machine or the specs page hasn't
been updated for 5.3.1.

2)
More importantly, the current 5.3.1 deployment key does *not* work on
non-Apple platforms (this has been confirmed by various people on
non-Apple servers, also on the deployment list).

So while the legalese was changed to allow it in 5.3.1, it doesn't
work technically/practically at the moment. A bug report has been
filed (#4354596) and I and others have contacted Apple about this.

Details are in the feedback to the blog URL you posted:

http://www.friday.com/bbum/2005/11/11/webobjects-deployment-license-change/#comments

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Marc says:
November 23rd, 2005 at 2:38 pm

The new WO 5.3.1 license key does not work on non-Apple server platforms.

So while the license has been changed, the license key for WO 5.3.1
dows not work on platforms other than OS X Server, but the older WO
5.3 key works.

Could anybody make this work on WO 5.3.1 on Linux or Windows ?

Neale says:
November 25th, 2005 at 6:52 am

I can confirm that the WO 5.3.1 license key does not work when
deploying under JBoss 3.2 on Windows 2003 Server.

: Cannot be initialized.: The License key [deleted for web] is invalid.

"Take the key included with the dev tools and deploy wherever the hell
you want to…" - I don't think so.

So *legally* Apple have made it possible to deploy on any platform,
however *technically* & in practice it is impossible - surely this
can't be right!?

Marc says:
November 25th, 2005 at 10:22 am

@Neale: Thank you for your confirmation !

No, this can't be right.

Due to the Thanksgiving holiday in the US, I guess we will have to
wait a little longer on an answer from Apple to resolve the technical
issue.

Neale says:
November 25th, 2005 at 11:40 am

I'm hoping this is a rather simple mistake on Apple's part of
including an incorrect license string with WO 5.3.1.

In previous versions when you attempted to deploy with a
platform-specific key on another platform the error message was a lot
more explicit - it told you what you were trying to do was
unsupported. Similarly if you attempted to deploy using a development
license etc, etc…

However this error message 'License Key is invalid' - seems to
indicate that the license checking code isn't even getting as far as
assessing the capabilities of the license - it looks like its tripping
up straight away. However what is weird is that plugging the 5.3.1
license into the the WOLicenseUpgrader.app does seem to decode it and
reports it as a "5.3 Deployment - Multithreaded - Unlimited requests"

As other people have reported the old 5.3 development key will allow
you to deploy on non-Apple platforms under 5.3.1.

Hope this helps.

Neale says:
November 25th, 2005 at 12:15 pm

Filed Radar #4354596 for this at bugreport.apple.com
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PS: As mentioned above, I and others have already contacted Apple with
these doubts

Marc
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