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Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects
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Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects


  • Subject: Re: Apple's Support of WebObjects
  • From: Kieran Kelleher <email@hidden>
  • Date: Sat, 5 May 2007 18:47:12 -0400


On May 5, 2007, at 5:27 PM, Jean Pierre Malrieu wrote:

This IDE kinds of remind me everyday that I don't really master it.
And I don't like the way it tends to fill up the screen, or the way
it pretends to show everything simultaneously by adding views all
around.

May be the default WOLips perspective should only have 2 or 3 views (package explorer–or how is it called?–, editor, console/ problems)?



Well, it is pretty easy to customize the perspective. In a* few seconds* you can reposition views by dragging tabs around the perspective and of course you can close as many views as you like. I actually like the tab stuff much better than XCode navigation. I really love the fact that you can double-click a tab to fill the whole perspective and double-click again to go back to regular layout.
I find that a big screen (23") helps a lot. In fact, with XCode I was always using expose to see where various windows were at. I think the Eclipse layout is well designed to optimize a developer's productivity. If you have two screens, you can just open another window and fill that too, although I usually leave the smaller screen for the browser interaction.


When I open NetBeans for example, I always think "what a
nicer UI". Maybe because it is more colorful? With bigger icons? But
this is more an overall feeling, and I think WOLips developers can do
a lot about it.

Sorry I meant "I think WOLips developers CANNOT do a lot about it".


The biggest problem with WOLips is the "dual" compiler. One should
not have to fiddle with ant tasks to do WebObjects development, i think.

I did not want to scare users who want to switch to Eclipse/WOLips.
"Do the thing you fear and the death of fear is certain" - old Irish proverb ;-)

In fact, just doing WO development, fiddling with ant task never happens, as you always use the incremental compiler.
To deploy, you must use ant. Both compiler have similar result, and generally, you don't see any difference between then.

In general though this gives more flexibility especially for different kinds of builds, options to embed frameworks, etc. .... plus you can automate build and deployment of one or more apps and frameworks by calling project ant files from bash scripts or whatever. Once you spend a little while studying the build.xml file, it's not that scary after all.


But some issues can arise because both compilers do not have the same policy with respect to flattening of resources.
And recently, some glitches showed up with localized resources in rapid turnaround mode in frameworks.

But these are really minor issues.

True .... compared to the value that can be added by WOLips team adding/improving component editing and component refactoring, these things are probably low-priority


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