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Re: One problem; one (probably dumb) question...
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  • Subject: Re: One problem; one (probably dumb) question...
  • From: William Julien <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:04:37 -0700

On Tuesday, April 22, 2003, at 07:18 AM, Kevin Buterbaugh wrote:

Greetings All,

     First time posting to this list by a long-time Unix system
administrator who has recently converted to the Mac (and loving it!).

I am running Apple's X11 beta 3 under MacOS X 10.2.5 on a 450 MHz G3
tower (beggars can't be choosers and besides, my request for one of the
new 17" PowerBooks hasn't been approved yet) with 640 MB RAM. I am also
using the trial version of CodeTek's virtual desktop. I'm using two
virtual desktops; one for my "office" apps (i.e. Lotus Notes, Mozilla, and
M$ Office) and one for my X11 apps.


I have edited my .xinitrc file to start up 10 xterms, xlogo, and
xeyes when I launch X11 (I'm using the quartz-wm). The problem I am
having is that on 3 separate occasions in the last week, one of my apps
has disappeared. Twice it was one of my xterms, once it was xlogo. On
all 3 occasions, the app was running fine, I switched to my "office"
virtual window, sometime later I switched back to my X11 virtual window,
and the app was simply gone. Has anybody else seen this?

I'm using CodeTek's virtual desktop. I did have a problem in beta 2 with X apps "disappearing", but it seems to have gone away in beta 3. (By the way, I use CDE on my spark at work!) One problem that still remains is that X apps appear to "freeze" if moved from one virtual desktop to another. I can only run X apps in a single desktop.


I don't start apps in my .xinitrc. Instead, I have written a little applescript to
start up X (if necessary) and start an xterm which sits on my dock. If an xterm is already running on another desktop, the new xterm works, but the ones on other desktops freeze, until I exit the second instance. Moral: X only works in one desktop (sigh).


I wish I knew to whom I should complain.

tell application "X11"
	activate
end tell

do shell script "export DISPLAY=:0 ; cd $HOME; /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -title callisto -j -ls -sb -sl 1000 &"

My only other remaining gripe is that apples "focus follows mouse" and "click to raise" don't work very well in apples X. On all my other systems, (irix, solaris, linux...) I have "focus follows mouse" (which works is beta 3 -- thank you!) but on all my other systems, click to raise is activated only on decoration, and not on the window contents. This means I can select text in a background window and paste it into the foreground window. You can't do this in Apples X11. Any click on a window, anywhere, will bring it to the foreground. Not good.


My probably very dumb question is ... how do I change the font size
in my xterm window? I've got a 21 inch ViewSonic monitor and poor
eyesight, so I'd like to make the font bigger. I'm used to CDE (yeah,
Aqua is a *slight* improvement over CDE <grin>), where it was an option on
the dtterm window. I know there has to be something very simple that I'm
overlooking, but I've read the man page for xterm 3 times and can't find
it. The man page references a "font menu," but how do I activate it?
Would someone mind to make me feel stupid by pointing out what I've
overlooked? Thank you <grin>.

Others have posted how to get the font menu. But, I want the "default" to be my own setup. Fortunately, the $HOME/.Xdefaults work on apples X just like they do on solaris and linux.


The following is what I have in my powerbook's .Xdefaults or XTerm. I like a nice large font.

-->cat .Xdefaults
!
! xterm
!
XTerm*VT100*translations:    #override \
                                <KeyPress> BackSpace : string(0x08)\n\
                                <KeyPress> Delete : string(0x7f)\n
XTerm*Tek*background:   MintCream
XTerm*jumpScroll:       on
XTerm*pointerShape:     arrow
XTerm*cursorColorBackground:    blue
XTerm*font:     *-fixed-*-*-*-20-*
XTerm*boldFont: *-fixed-*-*-*-20-*
XTerm*scrollKey:        on
XTerm*foreground:       black
XTerm*pointerColor:     navyblue
XTerm*pointerColorBackground:   White
XTerm*background:       PaleTurquoise
XTerm*scrollBar:        on
XTerm*borderColor:      RoyalBlue
XTerm*highlight:        RoyalBlue
XTerm*saveLines:        500
XTerm*loginShell:       on
XTerm*cursorColor:      black
XTerm*vt100*geometry:   80x36

I do an xrdb merge in my .xinitrc, But I'm not sure it is necessary.

-->cat .xinitrc
#!/bin/ksh
#
# Quartz startup script
#
###
xhost +mink
xhost +europa
xrdb -merge $HOME/.Xdefaults
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm

William Julien
email@hidden


==================================

Kevin Buterbaugh - Systems Engineer
LifeWay - www.lifeway.com

"Using CPU clock speed to say that one computer is faster than another is
like using engine RPM's to say that one car is faster than another."
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