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Re: Beta .2 and CodeTek Virtual Desktop focusing problem
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Re: Beta .2 and CodeTek Virtual Desktop focusing problem


  • Subject: Re: Beta .2 and CodeTek Virtual Desktop focusing problem
  • From: Francois Rigaut <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:00:06 -1000

Jeff,

What you describe has to do with the config of Codetex Virtual Desktop, not "broken Apps".
In CDV preferences, "Applications" tab, you have : "automatically switch to the Desktop of the topmost window".
If you unset that, it will do exactly what you ask. It means that a window with focus (Cmd-` does that of course in your example, as clicking on the dock icon can do it if this app has a window open on another desktop) can receive your keyboard entries while you don't see it. That's a normal behavior (odd, I concur).


I think the problem we were describing is different: it was "not being able to focus some X11 windows". Because X11 does not communicate well with CDV and loses track of the desktop it's in (well, that's my theory).

If I am on a desktop working on xemacs and switch by hand (Ctrl-option-arrow) to another desktop and my cursor falls on top of a xterm, I still have the xemacs cursor and clicking on the xterm does focus it. Which means: X11 still think xemacs is on top, therefore X11 does not know I have changed desktop.
Now whether X11 is faulty or CDV, I don't know.


Hope they fix that soon. Apple, any comments ?
May be we should get the people at CodeTex to follow this thread.
F

Back to the problem. I'm trying to figure out why you cannot have 2 xterms, 2 desktops, one on each. I just tried a simple test. I'm probably not trying what you want to do, but here I go:


[TEST #1...xterm vs. Terminal.app]
Open CodeTek virtual desktop w/ 2 desktops
Open Terminal.app
Open X11.app
Open 2 Terminal.app windows & 2 xterms. Drag one of each to the other virtual desktop.
Select the visible xterm. type CMD-` to switch to the other xterm. type 'pwd<enter>'.
Select the visible Terminal.app window, type CMD-`, type 'pwd<enter>'
now move to the other desktop. both Terminal.app and xterm work in the same way: the non-visible window became selected and allowed you to type 'pwd' in there.



[TEST #2...TextEdit]
Try this. Open up TextEdit in one virtual desktop. Now go to the other virtual desktop (cannot see TextEdit window) and select the TextEdit icon from the dock. Type anything you want. Switch back to the first desktop and I see my typing in TextEdit.




is this what you mean? am I missing something? I am using virtual desktop 2.1. I'm now installing 2.1.4 and will retest, so I do not know if it will change anything. I cannot see a Virtual Desktop preference that says "don't allow non-visible windows to be selected", so I'm presuming I'm not missing a pref setting. (I'm not trying to nit-pick: just want to make sure I'm not missing a setting or something because I don't have VirtDesktop very customized).

My thought is that Terminal.app, TextEdit.app, Mail.app, etc. are all equally broken like X11.app. In other words, the focus of non-visible windows seems to be fairly standard and that OroborOSX did something different than standard OSX applications. 99% of the apps work just like X11.

---jeff
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