Jeremy, Ben, everyone:
I just wanted to reiterate this: thank you for doing such a good job getting X11 caught up and fixing weird bugs. The modular Xorg releases are the way of the future, and I think we're all be much better off in the long run with the direction Apple and the Xquartz folks are taking. There's already a great deal of parity with the major Linux distributions and the last two packages have cleared up all of the show-stopping bugs I've seen.
So thank you, a million times over!
Now for some blatant self promotion, since Ben mentioned the GIMP... The old Gimp.app maintainer hasn't updated his release in some time, so a group of people decided to pick up where he left off and get a stable, working, up-to-date GIMP for OS X out the door. I'm the builder for the Leopard/PowerPC release, and there are Intel and PowerPC builds for Tiger and Leopard available. We're building based on the MacPorts releases of GIMP and supporting packages, but haven't really tried to generate Universal builds yet due to some catch-up and customization required to build UB packages from MacPorts in Leopard.
GIMP, Dia, etc. are the main reasons I use X11, and GIMP v2.4.2 is as stable (or more so) with the recent X11 packages as the old 2.2 releases ever were. Pointing folks to the easy-to-install packages on the Xquartz site alleviates a number of headaches for us, so hats off to everyone involved in getting us to this point!
ryan woodsmall email@hidden
"Be well, do good work, and keep in touch." - Garrison Keillor
On Dec 13, 2007, at 7:39 AM, Ben Byer wrote:
I don't know what prompted your reference to MathWorks, but my conversations with them have been pleasant and productive. We do as much as we can to ease the transition to a major new OS release by providing many developers with advance copies of the OS through the Developer Seeding program -- this gives them opportunity to submit bug reports through bugreport.apple.com (yes, the same resource I ask all of you to use). It would not be appropriate for me to comment more on specific developers, although I think it fair to say that they have experienced issues similar to other complicated, popular apps -- such as Gimp.app.
During the Leopard Seed cycle, we received several reports (from both Apple employees and external developers) that Gimp.app would not launch -- this was a problem that only could be fixed inside of Gimp.app, because it was a conflict caused by the way they included X11 dylibs inside their .app bundle. (This is an example of a bug that can only be fixed by the developer, and I should point out that they still have not released an official fixed version on http://gimp-app.sourceforge.net/ -- but I imagine that they, too, are busy people who are working as hard as they can.)
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