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OT: legalisms and NDA and this mailing list (was Re: Xcode 2.5
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OT: legalisms and NDA and this mailing list (was Re: Xcode 2.5


  • Subject: OT: legalisms and NDA and this mailing list (was Re: Xcode 2.5
  • From: Jim Witte <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:17:02 -0400

I have no intention of argueing with you, and I am the first to point out that things are under NDA ... And if you read my post I am adament about not discussing things like Xcode 3 here.
[..] is it not safe to assume that everybody on this list is at least an ADC Online Member? Doesn't that make it "OK" to talk about it? Kinda, like, you know ;) ?
Uh. No.

I see this as a perfect example of how over-arching (but well- intentioned) legal statues fail to deal with specific situations in which they were perhaps not meant to apply (or were not thought of when the general statues were written, or though to be "rare, so we need not worry about them)


Combine that with Google indexing the archives and it's essentially a free for all. Anything posted here is essentially out in the open.

This is a valid point (which I have a feeling will become important in other things in the future with regards to archived information). It seems to me the reasonable thing is for Apple to have an NDA-only list (for non-online, developer-seed people), and another list for discusions like this - "things that are essentially out in the open, but still are technically NDA."


An ineresting question - NDA is for non-disclosure agreement. But xCode 2.5 - NDA *from whom*? Does this mean I cannot tell a fellow developer who is not registered as an online member that it exists (and accessible to anyone who registers)? A strict reading might say yes.. Is this what we want?

IMO, this general problem (over-arching laws and the inability of people to generally make exceptions in places where they clearly don't fit) is a general problem with most legal systems. Especially if there is the risk of creating an over-reaching 'precedent' - you don't want a precedent, but that means you might not be able to rule in a way that actually makes sense in a small number of cases (see the US Supreme Court's recent decision on terminal patient access to experimental drugs, and the non-communication between law-makers who make drug laws and judges who actually have to deal with their consequences..)

  But THAT was FAR FAR OT..
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