Re: scripting Photoshop
Re: scripting Photoshop
- Subject: Re: scripting Photoshop
- From: email@hidden
- Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:06:23 -0800
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>>>If you don't know the REAL truth - don't start spouting off with
crap...If you want to do that, find another list to vent on!
Wow, that's a pretty harsh tone to take, especially when following it with
an extremely biased, subjective and one-sided view of the situation.
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>>>>You will find that the Photoshop Actions architecture is actually MORE
powerful than AppleScript, because they looked at AS's
limitations and flaws (like a single flat namespace) and addressed them in
it's implementation.
That does not make it more powerful. The fact that something can be done
by itself show's potential, but PhotoShop's actions will never be as
"powerful" as an AppleScript implementation becuase very little control is
given to the "actioner" and all these wonderful capabilities with no
control does not add up to power.
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would rather be lazy and let third parties do all the Applescript work.
>>>>This is actually Cal's fault more than Adobe's.
Speaking of spouting off....
First off, anyone who was scripting during that time knows that Adobe was
way behind the curve in implementing scriptability in their applications.
It was an embarassment for them and a big problem for AppleScript.
Cal showed them that he could do it, and do it better and faster than their
own engineers could and got his product to market long before the
illustrator plug in was ready, even though they had a head start.
Plus, Cal had no assurance from Adobe that they wouldn't turn around and
implement Scriptability in the very next release of their product.
In fact, quite to the contrary, Leonard and others publicly and frequently
announced that there were plans to do just that. AFAIK, Cal continues to
operate with the knowledge that Adobe could implement scriptability at any
time.
To "blame" Cal for reliance on a plug-in is pretty unfair. We should thank
him. Just look at the calendar, it took years for Adobe to implement
scriptability in Illustrator even after they purchased a working
third-party version. PhotoShop is a far more complex application and
because it has evolved so much over the years a much bigger task. We'd
still be waiting.
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>>>hooking up the two architectures is pretty trivial given their
similarities
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>>>Actually, I would argue that Cal & Eric did a BETTER job than Adobe's
engineers would have done at the time since they had MUCH more experience
with AS/scripting than almost anyone working on Photoshop or related
technologies did.
If it's so trivial, then why couldn't the Adobe Engineers have done as good
a job as Main Event, working on the outside with little support from within
adobe?
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>>- BUT Cal came to Adobe (and has many times since) to convince them NOT
to do their own scripting support because that would take away his
livelihood (aka Photoscripter).
Gee, what a heartwarming story. Isn't it great that a big corporation like
Adobe would be SO concerned about the livlihood of a small plug-in
developer that they would refrain from implementing a major feature in
their biggest program!
Get real.
ES