Re: newbie( Mail App)
Re: newbie( Mail App)
- Subject: Re: newbie( Mail App)
- From: "John C. Welch" <email@hidden>
- Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 14:54:50 -0400
On 04/14/2003 13:00, "cricket" <email@hidden> wrote:
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This is a good place to ask questions if you can put up with the
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pathological hatred of Mail that some people have on this list.
It's not a pathological hatred of Mail. It's more of an intense dislike for
the idiocy that Cocoa forces on scripters. Like the really odd syntax for
creating stuff. We all understand that there's not much anyone can do about
Cocoa, but things like Mail are going to be the *first* thing that people
want to script, and so it needs to be one of the easiest things to script.
Of course, the extremes on the pro and con mail sides don't help either.
Yeah, we all get a bit much when we get pissed at Mail, but then I also
remember a certain person defending the "improved security" of the one time
dialog when you wanted to run a Script on Mail from another application.
Then along comes iCal...hmm...all of a sudden that dedication to security by
annoyance whithered in the face of how many thousand people getting really
p.o'd because iCal kept shoving that idiot dialog in their faces for no
reason that anyone could figure out. So both sides of this are just as
guilty of digging in their heels because they don't want to admit they could
be wrong.
But there are some things that are fairly unique to Mail that do make
scripting it a pain in the keister. It's the only Mail application out of
the five that I work with regularly, (haven't dinked with Mulberry in a
while) that doesn't have it's own address book. So address book operations
get more complex than they need to be, and Address Book's dictionary ain't
no friggin' shining example of superb scriptability either. But nine times
out of ten, a new scripter is going to get pissed at Mail, not Address book,
because they are used to that being a function of an email application. It's
not right, but that's the way it is.
So it's not *all* Mail's fault, but face it, there are some pretty
legitimate areas that the Mail team has just shot itself in the foot.
john
--
I had no system of shooting as such. It is definitely more in the feeling
side of things that these skills develop. I was at the front five and a half
years, and you just got a feeling for the right amount of lead.
-- Lt. General Guenther Rall, GAF.
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