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Re: Quark conflicting properties (revisited)


  • Subject: Re: Quark conflicting properties (revisited)
  • From: Shane Stanley <email@hidden>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:47:46 +1100

On Dec 17, 2003, at 12:36 PM, Bill Metzinger wrote:

Shane, don't think for a minute that I advocate Quark.
Scripting it pays my mortgage, but I have no love for it.

Oh, when it was paying my mortgage I _did_ love it ;-)

When you say the world has moved on, do you mean they don't return the bounds of images anymore or do you mean they don't use Quark.

I guess I mean that the state of the art in terms of scripting page layout apps has moved on. Obviously, one can't choose a layout app -- or any other app -- solely on the basis of its scripting implementation. But Quark's implementation, standard bearer as it was all those years ago, hasn't really been developed (like the app itself).

Worse, whether scripting bugs get fixed is pure luck -- some do, some haven't for multiple revisions. And with every new version it seems we all cross our fingers and hold our breath, hoping that nothing we rely on has been broken. That's not my idea of a happy existence.

InDesign, on the other hand, has several big advantages: scripting ubiquity, a reputation for few bugs, and a reputation for fixing them. And they keep lifting the bar: the new UI stuff, for example.

I'm in the middle of evaluating ID3 vs QX6. What I decide will be put on 40 people's macs. They're going to hate either one, and hate me too. They're still screaming along in OS9.

The quite clearly you should choose what suits _you_ best :-))

You say QX6 is a can of slow worms, so is just about everything I've tested.
MS Excel and Extensis Portfolio are two huge offenders. Their worms aren't slow, they're stuck.
Things got better with Jaguar, and again with Panther, but an old OS9 box still blows everything away when doing thousands of repetitive tasks.

It's true that a lot of stuff is slower under OS X. For example, InDesign has improved dramatically in v3, but the very nature of what it does, and how, means there has to be more overhead. But if you change page lay-out apps, you should also look at your workflows at the same time. Most publishing workflows have been built around the strengths -- and weaknesses -- of QXP. InDesign has different strengths and weaknesses, so a different approach can make a huge difference.

And the fundamental comparison is not between scripts/apps on OS X and OS 9, but between scripts and no scripts.

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Shane Stanley <email@hidden>
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