Re: folder order
Re: folder order
- Subject: Re: folder order
- From: Emile Schwarz <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 11:27:48 +0200
Hi,
in the old times (Mac OS 6, 7, 8, 9 ?), you could sort the order using this trick:
Place the parent folder with the folder to 'sort' visible beside the folder to
'sort',
Place the folder to 'sort' in the 'List' mode (Was it 'View per Name, Size,...'
?), per Name, Size, Creation or Modification dates, etc.,
Select all,
Drag and drop all the files in its own folder icon, but in the Parent folder
(that is why you have to have it visible)
This 're-place' (understand 'position' or 'order') the files using the selected
order.
Now, the order under Mac OS X is modified each time you save a file (the file
contents change).
To check that, copy a file from a folder, decode the 'ufs ' entry of the
Clipboard and watch what happens after each successive save of the original
file. A 2 bytes value change (random ?).
The files are 'stored' using that 2 bytes value (0 to n order) but the index
used to display them show them in the reverse order: n to 0... (how can I
understand ?)
Of course, only if my memory is working fine.
If someone came with the definitive answer (and a way to verify it *), I will
take it.
Cheers,
Emile
* I do not like Urban Legends, and God knows that there are many in this
industry / about Macintosh; so I check each important information I get before
using it in a project (information that I have to rely on).
Even informations that came from Apple can - exceptionally - be false or
inacurate (even can have changed from the moment they wrote it until now).
For example, do not rely on the Window Item Position Grid between OS releases...
If you set the 'Lock to the grid' (translated from French) for the front window,
make a 'Align' (translated from French) to get the window contents aligned to
the Grid and run:
tell application "Finder"
return position of item 1 of front window
end tell
you get a position. Changing nothing to that folder contents, reboot with an
older OS, do the same can gives you a different value.
[I think that simply re-install the same OS on your hard disk can change that
too, but I never take time to make many re-install to check that]
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Subject: Re: folder order
To: Hunter Clarkson <email@hidden>,
<email@hidden>
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On 4/1/05 7:39 AM, "Hunter Clarkson" <email@hidden> wrote:
What determines which folder in a folder is "folder 1" and can it be
changed by sorting on size or date?
For all intents and purposes, consider it random. Typical options you'll
encounter (based on the underlying filesystem) are alphabetical and
creation-date. I've never seen size as a consideration.
If you want it a particular way you need to roll your own.
Rumor (including the Finder's own dictionary) implies that some day the
Finder will be able to sort directory listings for us, but don't hold your
breath.
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