Re:[OT] Vote!
Re:[OT] Vote!
- Subject: Re:[OT] Vote!
- From: Sander Tekelenburg <email@hidden>
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:56:28 +0200
At 08:55 -0400 UTC, on 2005/08/18, deivy petrescu wrote:
[...]
> Ok now lets talk about the counting process. So, the manual count is
> clean because there are witnesses and journalists. The computer vote
> is not clean because there are no witnesses and no journalists. Why
> don't we bring them in? Why is the electronic ballot box a blackbox
> machine? It does not have to be. You could have open source code put
> into the machine. You could have machines being certified by all
> parties involved. You can do random sample with the machines.
> Parties, journalists, etc , etc.
Open source is still computer code and so requires specialists to judge it.
Paper-based voting processes OTOH can be judged by just about anyone. You
really do not want to delegate elections to specialists. It's essential that
as many people as possible can be involved. Not only because that reduces the
risk of corruption, but also because when the system can only be understood
by a small minority of specialists, the rest of the people wil have little
reason to trust the system. Such lack of trust, even when there is in fact
*no* election corruption, undermines the entire political system itself.
People will see no reason to accept laws (except when enforced through
physical violence).
[...]
> This is a good illustration on the reason computers could be better.
> I do not believe an election could be won by 2 votes, or 53 votes for
> that matter. There should be some statistical significance taken into
> account.
What's this got to do with computers? A nation's election law decides whether
an election can be won with 1 single vote difference, or requires a larger
margin, or a minimum of 50% of cast votes, or a minimum of 2/3s of cast
votes. In some countries there will be second or even third rounds when the
margin is considered too small. In others, a single vote can make the
difference. In yet other systems, a minority can win as if it has a majority.
This is about election laws, not about which tool you use to implement them.
--
Sander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/>
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| | >Re:[OT] Vote! (From: deivy petrescu <email@hidden>) |