Re: To shell or not to shell (was Re: URL Access Redux)
Re: To shell or not to shell (was Re: URL Access Redux)
- Subject: Re: To shell or not to shell (was Re: URL Access Redux)
- From: Adam Bell <email@hidden>
- Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 12:11:14 -0300
Title: Re: To shell or not to shell (was Re: URL Access
Redux)
At 5:55 PM -0700 5/22/06, Stockly, Ed wrote:
>>> If there's a proclamation
that it's not appropriate for this list, or if a specific poster says
it's not what they want I'll accept that, but having this debate with
third-parties each time it comes up seems counterproductive.
OK, I think I complain about this more than anyone else because I'm
concerned that this list is becoming more and more a list for shell
scripters than for AppleScripters and that makes this list less
and less hospitable to AppleScripters, especially new
AppleScripters.
This list was started because the
MacScripter's list became more of a Frontier list than anything else
and you couldn't ask a simple AppleScript question without getting a
flood of Usertalk solutions that would drown out the AppleScript
answers the user was looking for.
I'm concerned with Ed's statement I've bolded above. As a
Principal of MacScripter.net (I administer ScriptBuilders.net and edit
the MacScripter.net cover articles that now appear every Monday), but
a relative newbie to AppleScripting (started in February 2005), I
certainly don't perceive http://bbs.applescript.net/ as being newbie
or "pure" AppleScript unfriendly. In fact, I find this list
less friendly and more inclined to the gist of Ed's complaint than
MacScripter is.
Nor do I object to shell script solutions when they are more
efficient (and reasonably comprehensible) than a "pure"
AppleScript solution. I know of no other easy way, for example, to
discover some system settings than by using "defaults read",
and "mkdir" is a much faster way to create a pre-defined
folder hierarchy than scripting the Finder will ever be. I can think
of others, but to me, even though I haven't the vaguest understanding
of "sed" or "awk", for examples, cURL is extremely
useful, and other unix tools are much faster than scripting the System
Profiler for setup information.
my 2 cents.
Adam
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