Re: AppleScript and shell scripting
Re: AppleScript and shell scripting
- Subject: Re: AppleScript and shell scripting
- From: Bill Briggs <email@hidden>
- Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:56:54 -0300
At 4:28 PM -0700 7/28/07, Ed Stockly wrote:
>Newbies with basic simple questions have been scolded for not buying the books, for not trying hard enough before asking a question
I haven't participated a lot in this list for the last couple of years (until the recent bit of activity) largely due to limits on my own time (80-90 hour a week job and four young children), but I've never scolded someone for not trying hard enough. However, I have, and will continue to take a pass on replying to posts from people who show no attempt to do anything, and just ask for someone to provide a script. This list isn't supposed to be a script service bureau. Help yes; provide complete solutions, no. I think I recently did reply to someone who asked such a thing and did say they should at least try something first.
Back when I was writing the column I used to get mail from university students asking for scripts to do this and that. It might have been fun to provide them answers, but it didn't pay the bills, and there was no time to do that sort of thing. I've got my own projects that eat up any spare time I have (which is precious little these days).
But my perception of this list is that newbies still get help here - lots of it. Sure, I took the piss out of some guy last night (which guy?) after that post asking for "pure AppleScript", but the timing of his question was just so spectacularly good, coming as it did on the heels of that long "discussion" about AppleScript purity (and I'd had several cocktails).
I don't think the list is in as bad a state as you do. And I think the best way for it to improve would be for Apple to start doing it right as concerns AppleScript. Even if they did do that (and I don't expect it to happen), there will still be shell solutions that are better. And that's not a problem.
We may debate among ourselves on the list from time to time, but I still think newbies get all the help they need to both get their stuff done, and to get motivated to learn more.
Time to fire up the barbecue and break out the beer.
- web
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