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Re: Scrolling in Lion
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Re: Scrolling in Lion


  • Subject: Re: Scrolling in Lion
  • From: David Wignall <email@hidden>
  • Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 12:20:08 +1200

On 11 Aug 2011, at 11:25 AM, Luther Fuller wrote:

> On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:07 PM, David Wignall wrote:
>
>> FWIW scrolling is very easy using a trackpad; I have not used a scrollbar from the time I got my first MBP with such a trackpad. Along that line of thought, a 20 year old HIG was written for a mouse and much smaller screens.
>
> Yes. But ... If you read HIG you will find that the theme that runs thru the entire book is "Don't confuse, confound, annoy, irritate, inconvenience or screw the user".
> This book ought to be required reading for anyone training to be anywhere near a computer.
> (Perhaps Steve needs my copy. Apple seems to have lost theirs.)

<tone_idle_conversation>

One way to interpret that theme is 'don't change', which to a certain extent is the path Microsoft chose with Windows. Change for it's own sake is not worth the time but I would argue that a leap rather than a step is sometimes required, and I think this is a case in point. If you use a trackpad or, I imagine, a mouse with a scroll wheel then these new scrollbars are simply not an issue. I (ok, n of 1) can't actually recall the last time I went anywhere near a scrollbar (in Mac OS X, Win XP, Win 7 or [not strictly relevant] iOS) so this behavior does not 'confuse, confound, annoy, irritate, inconvenience or screw' me in any way. Given that, I suspect that Apple's studies would find me a fairly ordinary user.

As another data point, my job IRL is as an applications trainer, mostly MS Office/Windows to a full range of user ability. Almost all of the people I train use the scroll wheel of the mouse. The power users use the keyboard. Three times in the last year I have had newer users ask why 'they' bother to put scrollbars on if there is no use to them.

</tone_idle_conversation>

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