Re: AS Library Question
Re: AS Library Question
- Subject: Re: AS Library Question
- From: Jean-Christophe Helary <email@hidden>
- Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 21:24:24 +0900
> On Dec 20, 2015, at 19:13, has <email@hidden> wrote:
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> The thing is, I absolutely agree with Shane that building a standard library is the sort of thing that community veterans could (and should!) do themselves - and do a better job too since they'll collectively iterate, test, and critique the things until they are totally satisfied they're up to the job, and _only_ then propose it for addition to the OS. And that's why I previously offered to do it for them, because I've done it before so have plenty experience in this sort of work, and don't mind doing scut-work if it helps lots of others out.
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> The real blocker is the Automation team are the final bastion of classic Apple's Not Invented Here syndrome, which means us AS users could build the greatest stdlib in the world and they still wouldn't include it; or, even worse, would respond by writing their own crappy half-assed alternative which does get bundled, totally undermining all of that community investment and goodwill, and leaving _everyone_ stuck between two lousy options: good but not standard, or standard but crap. It's a massive waste of everyone's time, hugely counter-productive (worse than doing nothing at all), and _very_ bad for future user-developer relations, as already demonstrated. So there's no point IMO in the community building a great stdlib unless the AS team first guarantee 1. not to undercut it, and 2. to include it in OS X once it's proven itself.
I'm not really in the best position to discuss that not being a coder by any stretch of the imagination, but I *totally* disagree here.
If veteran AS coders were to write a rock solid standard library for Applescript, open sourced etc. I am pretty sure that word of mouth would spread the news like wild fire and that *everybody* would use it *and* promote it.
The fact that it would not be an "official standard" is totally irrelevant as far as a lot of people who want AS to work smoothly are concerned.
Of course, there would be issues with OS upgrades that break things here and there, but that the whole point of open-sourcing it.
Such an endeavor would contribute to make AS a major actor on OSX again as a generic scripting language and would profundly renew interest in it.
Jean-Christophe
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